SDS programming / Allen County

[rspr8tr]

Anyone in Allen County Indiana (Fort Wayne) having trouble receiving county Fire dispatch on the P25 system after they switched off the VHF simulcast? I noticed about 5 frequencies listed on the RR database for this system that are not on the Sentinal list. It appears all the control channels are there but there are 5-6 frequencies within the system that are missing from the database. Would this cause me to consistently not be able to hear County Fire Dispatch? I'm at a loss to figure it out. I have 4 SDS scanners and its the same with all of them. They all seemed to work fine until a few months back they switched off the simulcast the broadcast on the old VHF channel. Any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[west-pac]

Update the DB on your scanners. Fire Disp used to be listed as encrypted. Some time ago the listing changed on Fire Disp, and handful of other fire channels. I believe that change was more than "a few month ago" though.

 

[west-pac]

It was actually a year ago when they stopped simulcasting on VHF.

Allen County Fire Abandons VHF

On January 6, 2025 dispatchers of Allen County fire departments (those outside the city of Fort Wayne) disabled a bridge between their 800 MHz P25 system and VHF FM transmitters on 154.01 MHz. Traffic that was previously audible on 154.01 MHz FM is now available only on the county's 800 MHz P25...

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[Enforcer52]

As long as the four control channels are programmed into the scanner, it will automatically receive all channels on the P25 system. County fire is TGID 2001, control channels are 853.275, 853.300, 853.7625, and 853.8375. I checked in Sentinel and all the correct info and all channels are included in the database, so as suggested by @west-pac , make sure your database is up to date.

DEC	HEX	Mode	Alpha Tag	Description	Tag
2041	7f9	D	AC FIRE VHF	Simulcast of 154.010 MHz VHF Dispatch	Fire Dispatch
2001	7d1	D	CO FIRE DISP	Dispatch	Fire Dispatch
2011	7db	D	Operations 11	Operations 11	Fire-Tac
2013	7dd	D	Operations 12	Operations 12	Fire-Tac
2015	7df	D	Operations 13	Operations 13	Fire-Tac
2003	7d3	D	Operations 14	Operations 14	Fire-Tac
2005	7d5	DE	Operations 15	Operations 15	Fire-Tac
2007	7d7	DE	Operations 16	Operations 16	Fire-Tac
1551	60f	D	AC FD TRAIN	Training	Fire-Talk
1553	611	D	AC FD TAC 7	Tactical 7	Fire-Tac
1555	613	D	AC FD TAC 8	Tactical 8	Fire-Tac

 

[rspr8tr]

It was actually a year ago when they stopped simulcasting on VHF.

Allen County Fire Abandons VHF

On January 6, 2025 dispatchers of Allen County fire departments (those outside the city of Fort Wayne) disabled a bridge between their 800 MHz P25 system and VHF FM transmitters on 154.01 MHz. Traffic that was previously audible on 154.01 MHz FM is now available only on the county's 800 MHz P25...

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Has it been a year? Good grief, where does the time go? thanks for the reply.

 

[jaymatt1978]

I'll be there in June. Is this still accurate or did they go encrypted?

As long as the four control channels are programmed into the scanner, it will automatically receive all channels on the P25 system. County fire is TGID 2001, control channels are 853.275, 853.300, 853.7625, and 853.8375. I checked in Sentinel and all the correct info and all channels are included in the database, so as suggested by @west-pac , make sure your database is up to date.

DEC	HEX	Mode	Alpha Tag	Description	Tag
2041	7f9	D	AC FIRE VHF	Simulcast of 154.010 MHz VHF Dispatch	Fire Dispatch
2001	7d1	D	CO FIRE DISP	Dispatch	Fire Dispatch
2011	7db	D	Operations 11	Operations 11	Fire-Tac
2013	7dd	D	Operations 12	Operations 12	Fire-Tac
2015	7df	D	Operations 13	Operations 13	Fire-Tac
2003	7d3	D	Operations 14	Operations 14	Fire-Tac
2005	7d5	DE	Operations 15	Operations 15	Fire-Tac
2007	7d7	DE	Operations 16	Operations 16	Fire-Tac
1551	60f	D	AC FD TRAIN	Training	Fire-Talk
1553	611	D	AC FD TAC 7	Tactical 7	Fire-Tac
1555	613	D	AC FD TAC 8	Tactical 8	Fire-Tac

 

[fire622]

Co fire and ops 11-16 will stay unencrypted. When it switched it was due to out of county departments either not having capable radios or having issues needing to rekey.