Pro-106 scanner

[frequencyjunkie]

Hi! Is there any one who can tell me why I'am not able to receive Camden Co. Fire and EMS after Programming the P25. trunking system in? Any help would be GREAT!!

 

[gr8rcall]

It might be best to try the NJ forum, here:
New Jersey Radio Discussion Forum - The RadioReference.com Forums

Hope this helps,
gr8rcall

 

[shadcall]

According to the database Camden County is using Phase II TDMA modulation which your 106 will not decode. Only the PSR-800 can decode these signals but only those not encrypted. Check it out here:

Camden County Public Safety Trunking System, Camden County, New Jersey - Scanner Frequencies

 

[frequencyjunkie]

Thank you I thought that's what it was. You know I bought this scanner for the purpose of listing to Camden Co as far as I know Camden Co. is the only County to us TDMA with the P25 Trunking. Anyway thanks again Shadcall and GR8Call.....

 

[shadcall]

There is always plenty to listen too besides your local fire/police although that is what you bought if for. You can always listen to railroads, air, both civilian and military, perhaps federal and marine, businesses, school busses (which in my area has a lot of drama every day), media and many others. Use the data base and search the bands and you never know what you will find.

 

[Marky102770]

Because Camden Co Fire and EMS switched to Project 25 Phase 2 and soon the whole county police and fire will be on that system. the only scanner that receives the phase 2 is the GRE PSR 800. your best bet is to get one on Ebay because if you go to scanner master it cost $700

 

[AC2OY]

The more I read about agencies switching to systems that can't be monitored,the more upset I get. People buy expensive scanners and they switch to not be heard but yet I read that the secret service doesn't encrypt?!

 

[Ensnared]

SS Doesn't Encrypt?

The more I read about agencies switching to systems that can't be monitored,the more upset I get. People buy expensive scanners and they switch to not be heard but yet I read that the secret service doesn't encrypt?!

At present, there are several different systems out of the reach of scanner enthusiasts. Open Sky is one of these systems. As previously stated, there is a scanner that monitors Phase II TDMA, but due to issues with the scanner manufacturer, these radios are currently very expensive.

At one time in the timeline of events, people were saying, "there will never be a digital scanner."

So, who knows what the future may hold. Sometimes, it all comes down to money.

When & if a TDMA scanner comes along, it might have new capabilities regarding proprietary issues. From what I understand, the expense of a digital radio is associated with the purchase of proprietary rights for that radio to operate on different systems.

If people decide to go out & buy a digital scanner without doing research into the matter, they have nobody to blame but themselves. Then again, there are instances when someone buys an expensive digital radio & an agency decides to use a system out of there reach. This is quite unfortunate.

When various municipalities purchase a radio system, generally speaking, there are usually town meetings, city council meetings or commissioner's court that review these purchases. Whether a citizen would have any impact on that process remains unknown.

Finally, I don't know who told you that the Secret Service does not encrypt, but they would be wrong. Yes, there are occasional clear transmission depending on the situation & person being protected at the time. But, for the most part, this is one of the most heavily-encrypted Federal agencies.

 

[AC2OY]

At present, there are several different systems out of the reach of scanner enthusiasts. Open Sky is one of these systems. As previously stated, there is a scanner that monitors Phase II TDMA, but due to issues with the scanner manufacturer, these radios are currently very expensive.

At one time in the timeline of events, people were saying, "there will never be a digital scanner."

So, who knows what the future may hold. Sometimes, it all comes down to money.

When & if a TDMA scanner comes along, it might have new capabilities regarding proprietary issues. From what I understand, the expense of a digital radio is associated with the purchase of proprietary rights for that radio to operate on different systems.

If people decide to go out & buy a digital scanner without doing research into the matter, they have nobody to blame but themselves. Then again, there are instances when someone buys an expensive digital radio & an agency decides to use a system out of there reach. This is quite unfortunate.

When various municipalities purchase a radio system, generally speaking, there are usually town meetings, city council meetings or commissioner's court that review these purchases. Whether a citizen would have any impact on that process remains unknown.

Finally, I don't know who told you that the Secret Service does not encrypt, but they would be wrong. Yes, there are occasional clear transmission depending on the situation & person being protected at the time. But, for the most part, this is one of the most heavily-encrypted Federal agencies.

Nice avatar!! I understand and figured that they encrypt all the good stuff but what angers me ensnare is when agencies change systems like my job did and many police departments in New Jersey are now doing. Heck I remember when my old stomping ground (meadowlands) wasn't encrypted. During events those three or four frequencies were really jumping!!

 

[n5ims]

Nice avatar!! I understand and figured that they encrypt all the good stuff but what angers me ensnare is when agencies change systems like my job did and many police departments in New Jersey are now doing. Heck I remember when my old stomping ground (meadowlands) wasn't encrypted. During events those three or four frequencies were really jumping!!

I feel sure that they didn't spend all that money just so you (and others) could no longer pick up their signals. Fact is, the Phase 2 systems provide nearly double the talk channels with no additional frequencies (that would be very hard to obtain). This is because they split each channel (except the control channel) into two separate timeslots with each able to carry a separate talkgroup. With phase 2, they can basically double the number of available channels using the same hardware and frequency bandwidth they would need using a phase 1 system. Now when I say "same hardware", that assumes that the radios, repeaters, controllers, etc. are new enough and have the compatible options for phase 2 operation. Most phase 2 equipment will work on phase 1 systems, but the reverse isn't generally true (which is why most scanners won't work on phase 2 systems at this point, they're too old of a design to handle it).

 

[80z1r]

Checkout today's Philadelphia Inquirer So.Jersey section about two lame<$$ thieves and one of the tools of their trade that compels public safety agencies to go ghost on us.

 

[frequencyjunkie]

Thanks Shadcall I do receive more Traffic on the Pro-106 . I get a lot of P25 phase 1 traffic along with Motorola 800/900 and EDACS trunks also I do get some LTR traffic> Also thanks Marky for the Ebay advise I know the GRE - PSR -800 is $700.00 but I just spent $400.00 for pro-106 so needless to say I'am not in the market yet for another high end scanner I have a total of 14 scanners going back to the 1970,s.

 

[frequencyjunkie]

pro-106

Can anyone tell me what the 700.000mhz on the camden county freq. list are for and why I can't receive them?