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retiredmich
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When programing a conventional frequency department such as the NOAA Weather Department ( 154.1300 ) in a Digital Scanner, why don't conventional Department programs show in the window like Digital programs do ?
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NOAA broadcasts are between 162.400 and 162.550mhz. You might be hearing an image on 154.1300mhz.
If you program a tag for a conventional frequency then it will show in the display like you want, but it has to be done after you program the frequency then remember to save it to a list. :wink:
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n9zas
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retiredmich
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Thanks for the reply. I do have the Weather taged as NOAA, but does not show on window display.
Spitfire8520
I might be completely clueless! =)
I think there might be a slight misunderstanding about how memory is organized in in Object Oriented Scanners. The RadioShack Pro-106 does not organize conventional frequencies/talkgroups part of a trunked system by Departments, only by Trunked Systems (TSYS). I believe the only scanner capable of this level of programming is the Uniden BCDX36HP scanners.
When a screen is flashing text for talkgroups, it showing the alpha tag of the talkgroup and the TSYS it is monitoring. When it is flashing text for conventional frequencies, it shows the alpha tag and scanlist name. If you're treating TSYS as a Department and creating a bunch of TSYS in order to have to have it flash a department name, then you could potentially be slowing down your scanner by a significant amount. I actually first programmed my Pro-106 this way when I first got my scanner and was very inexperienced with how it worked and started to wonder why it took forever to scan 4 different departments if they were all on the same system, then I realized I was trying to scan as if there were 4 different systems.
As for the display on the alpha tag (text) name for a frequency, those should be whatever you have the Tag set to and those only display when you're scanning or in MAN mode. TUNE will not display tags.
When a screen is flashing text for talkgroups, it showing the alpha tag of the talkgroup and the TSYS it is monitoring. When it is flashing text for conventional frequencies, it shows the alpha tag and scanlist name. If you're treating TSYS as a Department and creating a bunch of TSYS in order to have to have it flash a department name, then you could potentially be slowing down your scanner by a significant amount. I actually first programmed my Pro-106 this way when I first got my scanner and was very inexperienced with how it worked and started to wonder why it took forever to scan 4 different departments if they were all on the same system, then I realized I was trying to scan as if there were 4 different systems.
As for the display on the alpha tag (text) name for a frequency, those should be whatever you have the Tag set to and those only display when you're scanning or in MAN mode. TUNE will not display tags.
mikepdx
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Without knowing make and model of the scanner in question,
how can anyone possibly give a correct answer?
how can anyone possibly give a correct answer?
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retiredmich
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Thank you Spitfire8520, Happy New Year.
Irregardless of the model of scanner he has, a conventional freq can still be tagged and displayed as easily as a trunked object once the method is learned whether it's Uniden, Gre, Whistler, Etc. True, the make and model would make it simpler to understand what the op is seeing on his display.
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n9zas
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retiredmich
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OK ! with all that has been said about conventional tag's, I have a RS PRO 106 & I have 2 conventional Departments frequency's programed in my 106 scanner have both Departments TAGED with ID's & NEATHER one will show up on the display window only the TG ID's show up. The same with a friend of mine, his 106 is the same.
N8IAA
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Are the conventional frequencies programmed into the same scan list as the trunk system?
I have no problem with either my 106 or 197 showing the alphatags for conventional frequencies. P-25 or analog.
It must be how you have it programmed. Why not use software to make sure
Larry
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retiredmich
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Yes, the 2 in question conventional Departments are programed in with my Trunked System, is that the wrong thing to do , or should they be programed together on a diff scan list?
On GRE/RS/Whistler object oriented scanners you can mix any thing in a scanlist together.....
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retiredmich
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OK ! now I am really confused, I have had people tell me NO that my 106 will not work with conventional TAG ID's to show in the window & I have some people tell me yes it will show, so with that said and dun, WHO is right & WHO is wrong ?
The older PRO-96 series had trunked and conventional frequencies mixed together in the same list. You selected the channel type in the channel options.
The newer 106 series has separate areas for Trunked and Conventional.
In the 106, make a new conventional object and assign the frequency and tag, and it should show the tag and receive the frequency.
Oh, and software would make this much more clear.
And you CAN assign both talkgroups and conventional frequencies to the same scanlist. You cannot assign a trunked frequency to one, however.
The newer 106 series has separate areas for Trunked and Conventional.
In the 106, make a new conventional object and assign the frequency and tag, and it should show the tag and receive the frequency.
Oh, and software would make this much more clear.
And you CAN assign both talkgroups and conventional frequencies to the same scanlist. You cannot assign a trunked frequency to one, however.
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retiredmich
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I am to the point where I'm not worried about it no more. I have the 2 Departments programed in the same scan list with the TG ID's & frequency's & no TAG ID's showing in the window. I appreciate the help from every one, Thanks. HAPPY NEW YEAR to all
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retiredmich
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I appreciate you trying to help me to figure this out, but it's more troublesome that it's worth. But for what it's worth, these are the 2 Departments I am talking about. #1= Lv Co Fire & EMS ( analog ) # 2= NOAA Weather out of KCMO ( analog )
Would it not be easier just to use the WX key on the scanner for NOAA Weather instead of putting it in your scan list?
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retiredmich
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NO ! The WX is continually talking never stops, NOAA out of KCMO breaks in now & then to give Weather up dates & for cast, then goes off.
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