I'm guessing these were not on the RR database which is only as accurate as the users make it. Had it been in the database it would have been pretty simple to download them into the PPS and things would have been much easier.
There are a lot of things not in the RR database.....I found many on NE Scan. Or just searching. I can submit the ones I officially have heard. The main problem I find is that no one has made a step by step tutorial for the G5 on how to program this radio. When I first got help and we set up the local P25 system, it was working fine. But when I tried to program both DMR and conventional analog, I was following the same steps as with P25 and therefore I kept getting lost and confused. Programming DMR and analog are 2 different procedures, but not clear in any instruction manual or videos. All the videos on Youtube are too old and not using current PPS or firmware so none of the screen shots match mine. Once I figured out how to get DMR and analog working it was very simple. But without STEP BY STEP help, you will just go around in circles.
Because they have not been submitted.
I found some pretty helpful stuff on YouTube but, I had to rely on what I had learned both due to programming other radios and a lot of help on the RR forums from guys due to the other thing you mentioned below.
As you, and all the rest of us found out, yes it's not the same. I have added frequencies for conventional analog manually but it's sure way easier when you have them in the Database here. It took me longer to get my laptop out, and fire it up for programming than it did to go to RR and import a conventional analog system from MO where I was going for my son's wedding mid April. I was sure glad those frequencies were there and I was able to simply import them. Would have taken way longer entering them all by hand. A simple download, a few tweaks and I was ready to go.
Yes I think over time I will have a better understanding. I programmed a few more analog freqs and its very easy to do it manually. I have been bringing this radio to work the last 3 days and my work partner is really enjoying listening to all the calls. We drive most of the day and no matter where we go, the reception is good. He never listened to a scanner before and wants to get one. I might need to brush up on programming a P25 system at some point cause I don't remember every detail. But I tweaked my settings and got all the talk groups organized. Its too bad theres onl;y room for 64 TGs. I woulda liked at least 100, so I had to just put in the basic PD and FD main dispatch and fire grounds.....but thats for the whole state of RI! Still plenty to hear.
Well...it will receive way more than 64 but it will only identify 64 in any single knob position. You can use talk group monitor and it will receive every TG that's coming out of that site. For instance, I have the ones I'm mainly interested in in Zone 1 Knob 1, then in Zone 1 Knob 2, I use TG monitor and it receives everything coming out of that site. I still have a bunch of them labeled in that knob position also but the rest come up as only the TG ID number. After a while you will learn voices, streets, and even some of the numbers and it gets easier to identify what's happening. You're a premium member at RR, you can use the import from RR database feature in the PPS, and it makes things way easier (at least to me). Yes I tweak and change manually still along the way, but that import feature was a blessing.
When I set up the radio the first time I got help with setting up the local state P25 simulcast system. I have 5 sites on 5 separate knobs. I only put in the most active TG's like PD and FD Dispatch with some fireground TG's too. Along with all the other stuff on the system that is interesting. It works great. The 6th knob has the same system only set up with a "wildcard" which gets all TG's on the system but doesnt display the names. Knob 7 I set up with some local analog channels, and knob position 8 is a bunch of local business DMR channels. So far I can only figure out how to use just the top row, knob positions 1 thru 8 Zone 1 and I labeled it "RISCON" cause thats the state systems name. Even tho positions 7 and 8 are not related to the state system. Also if you look at the pic below, I have all the analog and DMR freqs filled in 3 zones.....is this supposed to be that way? I dont know how to program a NEW zone to use like the zones up at top. For example if I fill in another area with, say 5 or 6 public service freqs and wanted to assign a knob position AND ZONE, would I just creaet a NEW zone further down list and associate the 5 or 6 new freqs to it? It seems there are zones to STORE freqs and zones to STORE systems. This is what confused me when I first got started.
Actually you do it the way you want and organize the way. you want. If you import from RR, it gives you the option to use the public resource manager or start a new zone and such. Thus far personally I have used the create new zone choice but in hind sight I may have done that differently had I known then what I know now. (but it all still works to get things in there).
