Do we know for sure that all the PSRN talkgroups will be encrypted?
PSRN compared to RENIR
- Thread starter thecanadiangod
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Not all per say... MTO roads for example isn't, but OPP and EMS 100% will be.
Hopefully they don't pull a RENIR move on us
What did they do with RENIR?
Full encryption even for Public Works.
slicerwizard
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Did they get the real stuff that actually costs money or the free toy version?
AES 256
They have spent like 1 billion on the RENIR system, and it still has problems.
slicerwizard
Member
Another billion should get the job done!
In comparing RENIR to PSRN, both aren't similar in that there will be a lot of encryption. I would say there is less encryption on RENIR due to the fact interop TG's appear to be in clear. There is also more 700MHz on RENIR compared to PSRN so far. Overall, I think its really hard to compare the two at this point in time, but time will tell.
What the hell is RENIR? Asking for a friend 😜
The Quebec radio systems for most Quebec government agencies.
Have a look: RENIR - Reseau National Integre de Radiocommunication Trunking System, Provincewide, Quebec
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Only 1 x 800MHz site in RENIR that I see. (Site 19) RENIR - Reseau National Integre de Radiocommunication Trunking System, Provincewide, Quebec
Are you perhaps thinking of the Hydro Quebec radio network? HQ has several 800 MHz sites around Montreal.
I'm getting lots of encrypted activity on 141.69 in Ottawa. TG's are 586 and 544, ID is 8354 and 31375. I think this MAY be PSRN....
What is the System ID and Site number?
I would highly doubt it is. Members here just noted the other day that Ottawa area OPP were still using the Tait hardware. You're likely seeing the talkgroup numbers in Motorola numbers and not the Uniden ones. Radio IDs documented for PSRN so far are very much different than that.
586 * 16 = 9376 = OPP Tac 1. There is an active protest in Ottawa currently so, encryption isn't necessarily out of the option I would presume.
Well im getting these messages, these are just two examples, i often monitor fleetnet and haven't noticed these messages before.
| NAC: 754 TDULC ***LINK CONTROL CRC FAIL*** RESERVED-1D VENDORB3 UNKNOWN/UNRECOGNIZED OPCODE MSG:1DB3F479D2AE170298 |
NAC: 754 TDULC MOTOROLA DELETE PATCH GROUP :409565535, 65314] MSG:04900FFFFFFFFF2200 |
I think I saw either 3F or 3C, I cannot remember
Bell FleetNet Ontario Provincial Government Zone 2 Site: Ottawa (CARLSL)
Bell FleetNet Ontario Provincial Government Zone 2 Site: Ottawa (CARLSL) Details
www.radioreference.com
P25 NAC listed for Ottawa site is 2F2... which converts to 754 as a decimal
Ah ok. false alarm then, I don't know much about trunking systems, bear with me.Bell FleetNet Ontario Provincial Government Zone 2 Site: Ottawa (CARLSL)
Bell FleetNet Ontario Provincial Government Zone 2 Site: Ottawa (CARLSL) Detailswww.radioreference.com
P25 NAC listed for Ottawa site is 2F2... which converts to 754 as a decimal
What are you using to scan with?
