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I’m looking for some help on my qcII setup. During a tone out, the radio makes its own beeps when a call comes out. These beeps block the some of the tone and voice from dispatcher and continues to beep until I press ptt button. Anyway to disable this and automatically reset itself after the dispatcher is done? Using an XPR3500e with cps 2.0
 

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We moved on past QCII when the last agency I had went to the Trbo radios, but that specific problem is solved in the HT/CDM line by making sure "Alert Tone Auto Reset" and "(?Alert Tone?) with Voice Override" is selected. I don't know where it would be in CPS2.0, sorry.
 
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It was originally selected as voice w/override but I changed and waiting for some tones to see if it works lol. Although if it’s meant to be on voice w/override then I don’t know why it’s not working
 

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It was originally selected as voice w/override but I changed and waiting for some tones to see if it works lol. Although if it’s meant to be on voice w/override then I don’t know why it’s not working
Verify those two settings, and then see if that helps. What you are describing is exactly what the home-gamers used to complain about when they were setting up their ebay radios on our system at the time.
 
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Ok I will verify thanks
Also, would it be possible to scan a qc2 channel and another and give priority to the qc channel when the tones drop?

Also, just to clarify, I should have the auto reset timer checked, and the voice w/override checked, correct?
 
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Ok so i have voice w/carrier override set and had already had the auto reset timer set for 10 seconds so that doesnt seem to help
 

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link to a recent post of mine, that had some pix from the HT/CDM CPS. We never used QCII on the XPRs we went to, and I didn't ever field any radios with that CPS...so I'm just relaying what familiarity I had with older radios.

Does the alerting stop after 10 seconds? If it does, it is working correctly...try setting it lower than that, i vaguely recall ours being 1. I can find an old codeplug in the archives if I must.
 
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thanks, last question lol.
if i have more then one qc2 channel setup and they are in one zone, do i have to turn on scan for that zone if i want to hear the tones if they drop for each channel?
 
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link to a recent post of mine, that had some pix from the HT/CDM CPS. We never used QCII on the XPRs we went to, and I didn't ever field any radios with that CPS...so I'm just relaying what familiarity I had with older radios.

Does the alerting stop after 10 seconds? If it does, it is working correctly...try setting it lower than that, i vaguely recall ours being 1. I can find an old codeplug in the archives if I must.
the alerting stops and the tones stop but the radio still makes its beeps and doesnt reset until hitting the ptt button
 

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General>General Settings>Alerts>Call Alert Tone Duration. Use the help to explain.

You can use a QCII channel in scan with the QCII as priority but understand it may not be 100% reliable and that depends on many things.
Scanning two QCII channels is a shipwreck and I advise against it. You can have two or three tone sets in a single channel. Depends on your actual tones and the tone format you choose.
 
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I use a-b long b format. with fire the second part of the tone is continous and for ems its more of a beep beep for the second part of the tone. Can i combine ems and fire into one?
 
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General>General Settings>Alerts>Call Alert Tone Duration. Use the help to explain.

You can use a QCII channel in scan with the QCII as priority but understand it may not be 100% reliable and that depends on many things.
Scanning two QCII channels is a shipwreck and I advise against it. You can have two or three tone sets in a single channel. Depends on your actual tones and the tone format you choose.
i also see the call alert tone duration is set to infinite. this is what i was looking for. thank you
 

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Not really. Two tone sequential is two different tones. The A tone is sent for one second and B tone is sent for three seconds without any gap. This would be your EMS tones? One long continuous tone of eight seconds is a group tone and this is what fire uses?
If EMS is a two tone sequential *AND* the b tone matches the fire continuous single tone then yes the two can be in the same channel using the format you mentioned A-B/Long B.

I'm not sure what the beep beep is.
 
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The A tone is the same, but the B tone is diff for fire and ems. I believe they are both 2 tone just each one has a diff b tone
 

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Copy that. OK, A tone is common between the two. Set the format as A-B/A-C. Put the common tone in A. Put the B tone for one in the B slot. Put the B tone for the other in the C slot. See? Clear as mud.
 
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Awesome, i got it. I got that in, and will post once we get some tones and we'll see if it works; i think it will
 
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Also what’s the std, mute, unmute setting? Should it be configured a certain way? Not really sure I understand what it is
 

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Configures how the speaker mutes/unmutes using PL/DPL. I just leave it on STD UNMUTE.


Unmute Rule
Sets the rule that determines when the radio unmutes its speaker to receive audio or data. This is a channel-wide feature.
Options
Std Unmute, MuteUnmutes when a proper Private Line (PL) code is detected, and mutes on the loss of the PL code.
And Unmute, MuteUnmutes when a proper Private Line (PL) code and a Carrier Squelch is detected, and mutes on the loss of the PL code.
And Unmute, Or MuteUnmutes when a proper Private Line (PL) code and a Carrier Squelch is detected, and mutes on the loss of the proper PL code, or the loss of the Carrier Squelch.
Notes
  • The Receive Squelch Type feature is not set to Carrier Squelch (CSQ).
  • This feature is applicable to MOTOTRBO Conventional radios in Analog mode and 3600 Trunking capable radios in Conventional mode only.
 
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