Question about analog trunk scanning on analog and digital trunking sites

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Hello, I was wondering if analog trunking scanners will receive the digital noise (NOT VOICE) while scanning. I'm in the Kenora district, and we have a digital and analog Motorola Type II SmartZone trunking site in my area. I'm not too worried about the digital side, but I'm worried about the annoying sounds, but if you know of a scanner that isn't so expensive, and note that the SDS ### is out of the picture, but if you know of a scanner that is recommended for my local system or does both, please let me know.
 

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I would look into discriminator taps on cheaper scanner first. You connect to a program DSD and you might be able to hear the digital side.
 

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Hello, I was wondering if analog trunking scanners will receive the digital noise (NOT VOICE) while scanning. I'm in the Kenora district, and we have a digital and analog Motorola Type II SmartZone trunking site in my area. I'm not too worried about the digital side, but I'm worried about the annoying sounds, but if you know of a scanner that isn't so expensive, and note that the SDS ### is out of the picture, but if you know of a scanner that is recommended for my local system or does both, please let me know.
It's specific talk groups that use digital P25 voice modulation so you only have to lock out those TG's.
But if you want to listen to those then look for a P25-phase1 capable scanner, and it will (always?) have trunked SmartZone scanning.
People want P25-II scanners and often simulcast capable ones so a second hand that only does P25-1 will not cost much.

Radio-Shack Pro197 are one that could be used.
"MOT VHF/UHF - for Motorola VHF/UHF analog or mixed (analog and digital) trunked radio systems."

/Ubbe
 

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It's specific talk groups that use digital P25 voice modulation so you only have to lock out those TG's.
But if you want to listen to those then look for a P25-phase1 capable scanner, and it will (always?) have trunked SmartZone scanning.
People want P25-II scanners and often simulcast capable ones so a second hand that only does P25-1 will not cost much.

Radio-Shack Pro197 are one that could be used.
"MOT VHF/UHF - for Motorola VHF/UHF analog or mixed (analog and digital) trunked radio systems."

/Ubbe
The Uniden BCD996T or 996XT are solid choices as well.
 

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Analog trunking scanners can decode the 3600 baud control channels used by Motorola Type II SmartZone systems. You will hear the digital noise of digital talkgroups. As stated by kc2asb, you can lockout, delete, or not program digital talkgroups. Analog scanners cannot decode the 9600 baud control channels used by P25 systems.
 

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Don't overlook handheld versions of some of the models mentioned above, such as Uniden 396T/396XT, RadioShack PRO-651 and GRE PSR-500.

You could also run a pair of cheap RTL-SDR sticks with SDRTrunk and listen that way, though it isn't as convenient as having a scanner, you can set it up to remote into the computer it is on and listen from anywhere, record calls, etc
 

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As others have noted, if it's a Smartzone trunk then any of the older digital scanners will work fine. Personally, I'd look for a Uniden 996XT or 396XT. Older technology, but will do what you need.
 

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Don't overlook handheld versions of some of the models mentioned above, such as Uniden 396T/396XT, RadioShack PRO-651 and GRE PSR-500.

You could also run a pair of cheap RTL-SDR sticks with SDRTrunk and listen that way, though it isn't as convenient as having a scanner, you can set it up to remote into the computer it is on and listen from anywhere, record calls, etc
I've tried this; I only got the digital. I don't want to hear the digital talk groups just the analog talk groups.
 

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Only program in the analog talkgroups and you should be fine.

If you've got the RTL-SDR hardware though, you should be fine using UniTrunker for the analog talkgroups (I used to for Fleetnet before the swap as well). There is also Trunk-Recorder on the linux side.
 
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