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Question about programming Motorola ht1000

Mongerbl82

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I have programming software and programming cable for Motorola ht1000 and it is not working with my laptop I'm running Windows 10 and this is not compatible with my version what can I do to get it to work it also mentioned can I run due to incompatibility with 64-bit version of Windows and it wants me to ask and I saw for a vendor if a 64-bit window compatible version is available I don't know if they make that for a 64 bit compatible version because this is Old Radio old software runs off ours anybody got an answer for me or can help me in any way with this question God greatly appreciate it cuz I'm confused thank you
 

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HT1000 RSS requires DOS. Runs on many newer x86 systems but with true DOS you still need a hardware serial port to interface with the radio.

I use a Core 2 laptop that dual boots DOS 7.1 (from Windows 98) and Windows 10 32 bit LTSC and a Core 2 desktop that dual boots DOS 7.1 and Windows 7 32 bit Ultimate. Some say they have luck with DOSbox...I've never had such luck with DOSbox.
 

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I've opened MS-DOS and tried to pull it up in there and it told me that it went out of work with my version of Windows the contact the software provider see if they got a version that's compatible with my version of Windows but if you don't think they make the ac1000 programming software full Windows 10 good that's a old radio from the probably late seventies through the late 90s
 

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HT1000 RSS requires DOS. Runs on many newer x86 systems but with true DOS you still need a hardware serial port to interface with the radio.

I use a Core 2 laptop that dual boots DOS 7.1 (from Windows 98) and Windows 10 32 bit LTSC and a Core 2 desktop that dual boots DOS 7.1 and Windows 7 32 bit Ultimate. Some say they have luck with DOSbox...I've never had such luck with DOSbox.
What is Dos box I've never heard of that and I don't have a computer around here that has Windows 98 I think the oldest that might be here is Windows 9
 

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Oh okay cuz what I have is a USB to serial port then I got the cellular port to ht1000 programming cable and I got the software on CD which didn't have the ht1000 software so the company I bought it from sent me a zip file with the ht1000 software and I tried to run it on Windows and then I opened up dolls and tried to run it on Dawson it wouldn't let me either way it's not compatible with my Windows system I may have to pay to have it programmed if I can't get it to work
 

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DOS box is not stable as the RSS needs to see a true serial port..
You'll need a true MS-DOS boot source, a flash drive formatted to FAT-16, and the RSS loaded on it. You will need a real hardware RS-232 port, no way around this. Probably best to find someone who has the right stuff and have them program it for you.
Yeah I don't think my laptop will support that cuz I have on laptops only four maybe five years old but it don't have the cereal for it on it and I don't know if one can be added to it or not
 

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these radios are 30 years old. they use 30 year old technology to program them
Yeah you're right about that these are antiques but the ones that I know so at least know how to use I might just have to bite the bullet in either or find somebody that can program it I had a reasonable price or get a newer model radio something that's within the last 10 years. Cuz the company I'm working with uses UHF 450 to 470 MHz band so and they're running Motorola rmu model so and this is one that I purchased so I'm not sure what I'm going to do now
 

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these radios are 30 years old. they use 30 year old technology to program them
I've looked on eBay there is a couple people that are selling programming you send the radio of their program before you I've reached out to him and asked a few questions haven't heard nothing back yet but that might be my best bet unless I can look in storage and see if I still have my old HP that has Windows 98
 

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Now here's another question I have do the channels that were already programmed on this radio before I got it or gmrs channels 18 and 22 on both channels I can transmit him myself on gmrs radio but then I go to transmit on the FRS Universe radio unless I had to monitor button on the ht1000 I hear nothing so I did some checking on the gmrs FRS radios and found out channel 18 if I go to ccs code 19 I can transmit onto the ht1000 but then when I transmit it back I get nothing on 22 I think it's code 20 what could be causing that but like I said before my most important thing is being able to reprogram it to what I need
 

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NMO's installed, while-u-wait.
You need an older computer running DOS, as others said. Most of us keep older (2000's era) laptops for just such a job.
If you have such a laptop, you can download a program called Rufus and stick it on the USB thumb drive. Set your computer up to boot off the USB drive before the hard drive. Plug the USB thumb drive into your computer and restart it. That should bring it up in pure DOS.

You'll need to add the HT1000.exe software to the thumb drive also.

I've been doing that for years and it works fine with the older laptops and HT-1000's/JT-1000's.
But you'll probably need an RS-232 programming cable. DOS won't recognize USB ports.


Sounds like your radio has the PL tones set and they are not the same as your FRS radio.
Might be worth getting someone local to show you how to do this. The older software is not really that hard to learn, but if you are not experienced with this stuff, the learning curve can be steep enough to get frustrating really quickly.

Remember that there are rules about FRS that do not permit removable antennas, more than 2 watts, and must be narrow band.
GMRS is a bit different, but still has some requirements you need to pay attention to.
 

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You need an older computer running DOS, as others said. Most of us keep older (2000's era) laptops for just such a job.
If you have such a laptop, you can download a program called Rufus and stick it on the USB thumb drive. Set your computer up to boot off the USB drive before the hard drive. Plug the USB thumb drive into your computer and restart it. That should bring it up in pure DOS.

You'll need to add the HT1000.exe software to the thumb drive also.

I've been doing that for years and it works fine with the older laptops and HT-1000's/JT-1000's.
But you'll probably need an RS-232 programming cable. DOS won't recognize USB ports.


Sounds like your radio has the PL tones set and they are not the same as your FRS radio.
Might be worth getting someone local to show you how to do this. The older software is not really that hard to learn, but if you are not experienced with this stuff, the learning curve can be steep enough to get frustrating really quickly.

Remember that there are rules about FRS that do not permit removable antennas, more than 2 watts, and must be narrow band.
GMRS is a bit different, but still has some requirements you need to pay attention to.
T yeah I know about the rules on FRS and the gmrs rules but I seen a radio not too long ago it was a Motorola radius had FRS and some of your marshmallows on it and I didn't understand how he was able to have that on there cuz my understanding was you can't use or programmable radio for FRS radio because of the wattage and whatnot do you know where I can find that software at (rufus)
 

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NMO's installed, while-u-wait.
T yeah I know about the rules on FRS and the gmrs rules but I seen a radio not too long ago it was a Motorola radius had FRS and some of your marshmallows on it and I didn't understand how he was able to have that on there cuz my understanding was you can't use or programmable radio for FRS radio because of the wattage and whatnot


The FRS and GMRS channels are shared, so it can be done, you just need to make sure it is done correctly.

do you know where I can find that software at (rufus)

 

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I really think the O/P would be better suited to find a local, competent programmer. Should cost less than trying to cobble everything together, especially since vintage PCs are actually skyrocketing in prices. 10 years ago, Win98 desktops and laptops were E-waste and free for the asking. Today, people want a king's ransom for a WORKING unit because of the "vintage gamer" crowd hoarding them up.

Sure, HT1000 RSS (R3.03 or later) will run fine on a dual core or faster machine booted to DOS from a flash drive or CD, but...the newer serial ports may or may not play well.

These are simple radios RSS wise and a local person with the right tools should be able to knock it out in 20 minutes. If I were closer I'd help- but RVA is about 600 miles away from here.
 

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The RSS for the Jedi series radios require a true DOS operating system without Window running in the background. Also, you'll need a true serial port and a floppy disk reader. Some model radios will not like a speedy CPU so make sure that its old and slow.

I had an old XP Laptop with a Pentium I or II processor (Can't remember which now, I guess I can go look, it doesn't say but it is a 2001 Sony Vaio with an AMD 1 GHz processor) stripped of all XP (with a serial DB9 port) and Windows files and reloaded and reconfigured with only DOS, I believe 6.2, and I am running my Jedi series RSS programs with great success for the MT2000, HT1000, and Visar radios. Unfortunately, the Saber RSS program does not like the CPU Clock Speed of this laptop. The MTS2000 RSS is a CPS program that comes on a CD so I use my XP laptop for that program along with the Professional Series (EX600; HT750, CDM/HT1250, and CDM1550; PM400), and Astro 25 Series (Astro Saber and XTS 3000) programs.

If the OP needs his/her HT1000 radio programmed, I can do it and I won't charge. I'll do it just to help out. Charging a few dollars DMS (Doesn't Mean Stuff) at my age, and I don't mine helping out when I'm not hanging out with other old people at the pool everyday. You'll just need to pay the shipping cost both ways. Let me know if you want this done and I can email you the programming work sheets that I made up to help with your decision on how you want the radio programmed.

Let me know if you want my help.
 

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It is legal for GMRS licensees to program and communicate on GMRS/FRS Channels 1-7 with a Part 90 radio if all the Part 95, Sub Part E guidelines are complied with. Licensed GMRS users can communicate up to 5 watts or less ERP on the 462 MHz interstitial channels. The 462 MHz interstitial channels can be either wide or narrowband emissions. They can also communicate on FRS Channels 8-14 (467 MHz interstitial channels) providing that the output power does not exceed .5 (point five) watt ERP and the emissions are narrowband.
 
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