Jrbucs91
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I've noticed I'm not hearing the Johnson City fire department anymore on the p25 system ems and Co fire still works great but the city fire department just went silent did they change or go encrypted if anyone knows.
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With that county being one of the encryption happy ones, they might indeed now be E. I mean even transit there is E.
When did you notice the change? I'm somewhat confident I heard Engine 5 dispatched Thursday morning around 7am on a residential fire alarm call. Also absolutely would not surprise me if they went full-time E. Like @milf mentioned, the transit department was actually the first to go E after migrating to TACN... that was a pretty good indicator of what was to come.
Okay - you're onto something. Within the last 24-48 hours, something about the way calls are being dispatched seems to have changed. And (surprisingly) it doesn't appear to be that the talkgroups are now encrypted.
I'm using a Uniden BCD436HP and have it locked onto the Washington County site in ID search mode (which will show the numerical TGID even if I don't have it stored with alpha tags in my scanner). I still hear infrequent "ancillary info" updates in the clear for both fire and EMS, but it's like the entire initial dispatch (raising the responding units, acknowledgement by responding units, dispatch of call details - location, nature, etc..., units establishing that they are en route and then on scene) has just disappeared entirely. I've watched the display on my scanner for several hours at this point and am just not seeing the talkgroups being used like they were. It definitely "looks" different than what I see with the agencies that we know are encrypted (TWRA region four, WCSO, JCPD, JBPD) -- those talkgroups will still briefly appear on the display until the scanner determines the traffic is encrypted. With both fire and EMS, I'm just not seeing those talkgroups appear on the display like that with the "ENC" label. On the rare occasion the scanner does pick up traffic on those talkgroups now, it's still bidirectionally in the clear (regardless of whether it's being initiated by comm center or one of the responding units).
I'm using a Uniden BCD436HP and have it locked onto the Washington County site in ID search mode (which will show the numerical TGID even if I don't have it stored with alpha tags in my scanner). I still hear infrequent "ancillary info" updates in the clear for both fire and EMS, but it's like the entire initial dispatch (raising the responding units, acknowledgement by responding units, dispatch of call details - location, nature, etc..., units establishing that they are en route and then on scene) has just disappeared entirely. I've watched the display on my scanner for several hours at this point and am just not seeing the talkgroups being used like they were. It definitely "looks" different than what I see with the agencies that we know are encrypted (TWRA region four, WCSO, JCPD, JBPD) -- those talkgroups will still briefly appear on the display until the scanner determines the traffic is encrypted. With both fire and EMS, I'm just not seeing those talkgroups appear on the display like that with the "ENC" label. On the rare occasion the scanner does pick up traffic on those talkgroups now, it's still bidirectionally in the clear (regardless of whether it's being initiated by comm center or one of the responding units).
Jrbucs91
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I've not changed to the phase 2 yet still using the bc996xt but EMS and Co fire work just fine I here all there traffic dispatch arrives and clears and even the ambulance to hospital works great but no jcfd it just vanished same as THP fall branch dispatch did.
Jrbucs91
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I'm thinking about getting the phase 2 but don't know if it would be worth my time and money since I still get EMS and county fire
ETSU police is still on phase 1. THP is still in the clear for the moment, and they're phase 2. I tend to agree with you -- not sure it's worth the money & effort to switch over, unless you really want to hear THP.
On my SDS200 I'm seeing "ENCRY" on TGID : 30431 JCFD DISP and on TGID : 30441 WASH EMSDISP. I noticed the same thing you did early last week plus a lot of fire and EMS activity on mutual aid and interop then silence on them all. If there's anyone else local that can also confirm this it would be appreciated.
Ugh... I'll give it a listen tonight and confirm I'm seeing the same thing. Was hoping we would begin to see less 'E' activity but it sounds like the trend toward universal encryption sadly continues.
I'm so annoyed right now I don't know what to say.
I'm right with you... I can confirm that I was seeing the same behavior from the Buffalo Mountain site on my BCD436. Listened for quite some time last night and was only able to catch THP District 5 and ETSU Police in the clear.
I hear those and TGID : 30591 WASH CO FIRE, the most active fire and EMS are showing encrypted, including the hospitals.
TGID : 30450 WASH VA,TGID : 30448 WASH JCMC,TGID : 30444 WASH EMSCNVL,TGID : 30432 JCFD FG1 and TGID : 30449 WASH FWH are all showing encrypted.
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