Question of features with L3Harris's XL-200P

[AES-256-Encryption]

I don't use Harris extensively, so I just wondered, is the XL-200P P25 Phase 2 compliant out of the box, or is Phase 2 a licensed feature like it is on the XG-100 series?

I'll be using the radio principally in RX-only mode with a mission plan for the work I'll be doing, but I'd also like to have the ability to monitor one or two of the local trunked systems, primarily fire traffic. Just making sure the radio will support that without issue, and I'm familiar with the correct programming and setup methods of that kind of application. Ive heard elsewhere that the XL can be powered down? Obviously don't use UID 1, turn off anything data related, OTAR related etc. Turn off PTT in audio settings, but other than that are there any quirks to these or are they pretty straightforward?

 

[redbeard]

No they don't come with Phase II by default.

Yes you can power it off with the power switch.

 

[AES-256-Encryption]

No they don't come with Phase II by default.

Yes you can power it off with the power switch.

Worded that horribly. Can It be inhibited*

 

[AES-256-Encryption]

I don't use Harris extensively, so I just wondered, is the XL-200P P25 Phase 2 compliant out of the box, or is Phase 2 a licensed feature like it is on the XG-100 series?

I'll be using the radio principally in RX-only mode with a mission plan for the work I'll be doing, but I'd also like to have the ability to monitor one or two of the local trunked systems, primarily fire traffic. Just making sure the radio will support that without issue, and I'm familiar with the correct programming and setup methods of that kind of application. Ive heard elsewhere that the XL can be powered down? Obviously don't use UID 1, turn off anything data related, OTAR related etc. Turn off PTT in audio settings, but other than that are there any quirks to these or are they pretty straightforward?

The line "Ive heard elsewhere that the XL can be powered down?" is meant to say inhibited I worded it horribly.

 

[TDR-94]

All L3H radios can be inhibited.

 

[AES-256-Encryption]

All L3H radios can be inhibited.

Correct, so can Unications. But is it like the XG?

 

[nikronzo]

No, the XLs actually get killed and can't be recovered by writing a new plug from RPM in.

 

[AES-256-Encryption]

No, the XLs actually get killed and can't be recovered by writing a new plug from RPM in.

Annoying but i understand why. if i was a system admin i wouldn't want rouge radios reaff if thats what they were doing.

 

[MTS2000des]

No, the XLs actually get killed and can't be recovered by writing a new plug from RPM in.

Which the should be. For a while a local sys admin here did not allow them on his/her network as there was some ambiguity over being able to recover an XL just by overwriting a new personality in it with RPM2. Once it was demonstrated as being bricked, with no hacker/whacker being able to recover it, minds were changed.

 

[AES-256-Encryption]

Which the should be. For a while a local sys admin here did not allow them on his/her network as there was some ambiguity over being able to recover an XL just by overwriting a new personality in it with RPM2. Once it was demonstrated as being bricked, with no hacker/whacker being able to recover it, minds were changed.

Right, obviously some people ruin it for others. If people were more careful and didn't just do it... But with that being said thank you

 

[mpcpsrego1]

@AES-256-Encryption just my 2 cents, on conversations that I have had with my regional rep with L3 is that a lot of those security features was to be able to make the Harris line comparable to M. Obviously they are their own platforms as a whole but M really boasts that their radios are more secure if a radio was to go rouge and be inhibited. Now I won't say that that's 100% the reason the XL line is different from the older ones but it does make sense overall. Every meeting and training that I have been apart of L3 really is trying to be a strong competitor in the market since a lot of agencies especially one's that I maintain have dropped M for L3 and I think a lot of agencies are just realizing that L3 has better priced products that are just as good as M in a lot of ways. I know it's been a game changer locally for the agencies I maintain. Any how probably a little off topic and more of a opinion piece but just things I have gathered since repping L3.

 

[nikronzo]

XL subs can drop all crypto on inhibit, so they have the same security function as any MSI or JVC public safety product on the market.

 

[AES-256-Encryption]

@AES-256-Encryption just my 2 cents, on conversations that I have had with my regional rep with L3 is that a lot of those security features was to be able to make the Harris line comparable to M. Obviously they are their own platforms as a whole but M really boasts that their radios are more secure if a radio was to go rouge and be inhibited. Now I won't say that that's 100% the reason the XL line is different from the older ones but it does make sense overall. Every meeting and training that I have been apart of L3 really is trying to be a strong competitor in the market since a lot of agencies especially one's that I maintain have dropped M for L3 and I think a lot of agencies are just realizing that L3 has better priced products that are just as good as M in a lot of ways. I know it's been a game changer locally for the agencies I maintain. Any how probably a little off topic and more of a opinion piece but just things I have gathered since repping L3.

Someone told me L3 will cancel their PS line. I called him nuts

 

[ElroyJetson]

Yes, I hate rouge radios, too. I much prefer teal or cyan. Rouge is just the WRONG color for a radio. They should not be ANY shade of red, unless it's the fire chief's radio.

Oh, did you mean ROGUE, not rouge? The difference is... not houge...but huge.

 

[AES-256-Encryption]

Yes, I hate rouge radios, too. I much prefer teal or cyan. Rouge is just the WRONG color for a radio. They should not be ANY shade of red, unless it's the fire chief's radio.

Oh, did you mean ROGUE, not rouge? The difference is... not houge...but huge.

Dur, lol, good catch lol my bad!

 

[mpcpsrego1]

Oh, did you mean ROGUE, not rouge? The difference is... not houge...but huge.

Hahaha I did the same thing without paying attention too OOPS

Someone told me L3 will cancel their PS line. I called him nuts

No way! He is definitely on something lol. L3 is doing really well in the public safety market. I mean yes M still dominates the market but a lot of agencies and states are going from M to L3. I was just in Lincoln 4 weeks ago and we placed our bid in for the update of the SRS which is 86 sites. M was the original installer in 2012 and they told the state the system will be EOL in 2028. But yeah he is nuts there is a lot of interest in L3 products.

 

[mpcpsrego1]

XL subs can drop all crypto on inhibit, so they have the same security function as any MSI or JVC public safety product on the market.

And I concur with that statement but M sales reps really go to town on selling that their products have all these security features and that other lack or don't have them and that seems to be something I hear quite a bit. Can not tell you how many times I have heard from heads of agencies running M telling me that they were told L3 radios aren't compatible with they equipment LOL so someone's out there lying their ass off to make some sales haha

 

[AES-256-Encryption]

And I concur with that statement but M sales reps really go to town on selling that their products have all these security features and that other lack or don't have them and that seems to be something I hear quite a bit. Can not tell you how many times I have heard from heads of agencies running M telling me that they were told L3 radios aren't compatible with they equipment LOL so someone's out there lying their ass off to make some sales haha

They aren't dropping rated like big M