RCMP Central Region/GRC Region centrale

[gary123]

Its a common thing for the site frequencies to be duplicated but this is real close physically to Brampton. I have noticed several similar instances of a CC frequency being reused 40-50Km from another site.

site 85 no DB updates


Site 87 No DB updates

 

[mikewazowski]

And that's right about the location that Close Call goes off.

Orangeville looks about right . Goolgleee eyes is your friend. just down Hiway 109 is this. Notice the nice antenna 1/3 up the tower.

 

[Aviator747]

 

[gary123]

Nice Radio records LOL. 252K I'm only at 8K

 

[gary123]

site 103 Neighbor list needs updating in DB



site 115 Neighbor list needs adding to DB and NAC updating


site 118 Neighbor list needs adding to DB and NAC updating

 

[mbstone99]

Gary,
I thought I had that one but it doesn't look like it is so I wasn't able to capture the KID for those two tg's. I am not sure either how to turn that level on of verbosity on again.

Matt

 

[gary123]

DSD is easy not sure what program your using.

for DSD. set the control as shown


and the Encrypted Voice Call following

 

[mbstone99]

DSD is easy not sure what program your using.

for DSD. set the control as shown
View attachment 190887

and the Encrypted Voice Call following
View attachment 190888

That did it.. thanks! I had to put it into the combined cc/vc monitor mode for it to work.

Matt

 

[mciupa]

Caught OCC (Ontario Communications Centre) off of Toronto-South this morning with their Key ID

2025/10/07 10:53:46 Freq=421.250000 NAC=99A Affiliation; RID=4268320 TG=1017 [Ontario Communication Centre] ACCEPT
2025/10/07 10:54:04 Freq=421.250000 NAC=99A Enc Group call; TG=1017 [Ontario Communication Centre] RID=101002 Ch=421.775 Alg=AES KeyID=201A (8218) 4s
2025/10/07 10:54:11 Freq=421.250000 NAC=99A Enc Group call; TG=1017 [Ontario Communication Centre] RID=4268249 Ch=421.775 Alg=AES KeyID=201A (8218) 5s
2025/10/07 10:54:16 Freq=421.775000 NAC=99A Enc Group call; TG=1017 [Ontario Communication Centre] RID=101002 Ch=421.775 Alg=AES KeyID=201A (8218) 3s
2025/10/07 10:54:20 Freq=421.250000 NAC=99A Enc Group call; TG=1017 [Ontario Communication Centre] RID=101002 Ch=422.925 Alg=AES KeyID=201A (8218) 3s

 

[gary123]

This is my current working TG file. Its configured for my use so excuse the mess. The A,B,C is the KID grouping. if anyone can add to the TG captures even if there is not KID we can at least build up a TG map.



mciupa good analysis TG1017 does indeed look like its a main Dispatch desk TG as I see it on numerous sites.

The ENC key seems to be 201A for the next few weeks. Hopefully we can get other TG and KIDs. This will help fill in the KID groupings. Interesting point the KID incremented by 1 this is not the first time I have seen such an increment. My working theory is that ALL the KIDs increment by 1 every so often.

 

[mciupa]

This is going on right now on Toronto-West. I inadvertently snipped the time out of the frame. I moved the dongle to cause an error, but it cleared up right away.



My talkgroup list from 2023 to today:

P25, BEE00.99B, 111, 50, Normal, 0, 2023/11/28 15:09, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 1001, 50, Normal, 0, 2025/09/19 8:59, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 1005, 50, Normal, 0, 2025/10/07 15:45, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 1015, 50, Normal, 0, 2025/10/07 14:58, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 1017, 50, Normal, 88, 2025/10/07 15:47, "Operational Communication Centre"
P25, BEE00.99B, 1018, 50, Normal, 3, 2025/10/07 15:47, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 1019, 50, Normal, 14, 2025/10/07 15:36, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 1020, 50, Normal, 4, 2025/10/07 15:47, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 1024, 50, Normal, 0, 2025/10/07 15:36, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 1028, 50, Normal, 12, 2024/02/02 15:50, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 1209, 50, Normal, 3, 2025/07/23 15:45, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 1212, 50, Normal, 3, 2025/10/07 15:47, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 1215, 50, Normal, 1, 2025/10/02 16:19, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 1216, 50, Normal, 0, 2025/10/02 16:19, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 1225, 50, Normal, 1, 2024/02/26 11:57, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 1241, 50, Normal, 0, 2024/06/24 17:02, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 1242, 50, Normal, 6, 2024/10/31 15:16, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 1245, 50, Normal, 0, 2024/07/05 13:05, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 1253, 50, Normal, 0, 2025/10/07 15:46, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 1269, 50, Normal, 28, 2024/07/05 16:51, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 1270, 50, Normal, 23, 2024/07/05 13:28, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 1279, 50, Normal, 3, 2023/12/13 11:53, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 1280, 50, Normal, 2, 2024/11/22 17:21, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 1283, 50, Normal, 0, 2025/10/07 15:46, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 1284, 50, Normal, 0, 2023/11/28 15:07, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 4001, 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 0:00, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 4601, 50, Normal, 6, 2025/10/07 15:46, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 4701, 50, Normal, 64, 2024/10/31 15:20, ""
P25, BEE00.99B, 4702, 50, Normal, 5, 2025/07/23 15:43, ""

Any new ones can be added to your list as Toronto captures.

 

[exkalibur]

Caught OCC (Ontario Communications Centre) off of Toronto-South this morning with their Key ID

2025/10/07 10:53:46 Freq=421.250000 NAC=99A Affiliation; RID=4268320 TG=1017 [Ontario Communication Centre] ACCEPT
2025/10/07 10:54:04 Freq=421.250000 NAC=99A Enc Group call; TG=1017 [Ontario Communication Centre] RID=101002 Ch=421.775 Alg=AES KeyID=201A (8218) 4s
2025/10/07 10:54:11 Freq=421.250000 NAC=99A Enc Group call; TG=1017 [Ontario Communication Centre] RID=4268249 Ch=421.775 Alg=AES KeyID=201A (8218) 5s
2025/10/07 10:54:16 Freq=421.775000 NAC=99A Enc Group call; TG=1017 [Ontario Communication Centre] RID=101002 Ch=421.775 Alg=AES KeyID=201A (8218) 3s
2025/10/07 10:54:20 Freq=421.250000 NAC=99A Enc Group call; TG=1017 [Ontario Communication Centre] RID=101002 Ch=422.925 Alg=AES KeyID=201A (8218) 3s

Not to be pedantic, but OCC stands for Operational Communications Centre, not Ontario. The OCC for Ontario is in London.

 

[mciupa]

Not to be pedantic, but OCC stands for Operational Communications Centre, not Ontario. The OCC for Ontario is in London.

After I read your post, I looked at the database to see if I entered it correctly on Jan 20th 2025. There it is correct. I will edit my personal GROUPS file in DSDPlus.

 

[gary123]

Me too. Excalibur any info is good info . Thanks

 

[gary123]

I have added mciupa data to the document. I have also expanded the info to include the first seen and current seen dates for the TG. This way we know how current the information is.

If anyone wishes to send thier DSD groups list for 99B you can DM me it if you do not wish to post a large file. I could also use the 99B P25data info as well. I will combine all the files and resend them back with all the known TG and frequency information included. I will also send a .sites list for 99B.

If you cannot work with the xls file shared let me know the format you would like and ill do the conversion.

 

[Forts]

I logged TG 4812 (KID=130A) on London site 78 this morning.

 

[mbstone99]

On Hamilton I am currently seeing only 2 active TG's.

TG 1020 KID 201A
TG 1212 KID 201A

Matt

 

[phyberoptics]

Makes me wonder if it would be Acton, Brisbane or Hillsburgh, potentially.

Can confirm that 421.5375 Site 99 is on the tower at 109/County Rd 11 on the west side of Orangeville.

 

[mbstone99]

I am now starting to see a single hit on 4601 (KID 132A) on the Hamilton tower.

Matt

 

[gary123]

Cambridge Tower (122)
new TG 4906 with KID 132A.

Heard a rumor that site 1 is Orillia. I am waiting on the p25dat file and events file from the contact to verify and submit.

I am now looking for a large .jpg/bmp/png map of Ontario. If anyone has such a map or image I would appreciate getting a copy. My plan is to tag the discovered sites and neighbors so we can see where everything is and what is empty or undiscovered.