BCD436HP/BCD536HP: Recording Problem??

[shabec]

After updating the new Firmware on my 436HP I noticed a recording issue with the radio now. If you stop on a channel, talkgroup OR type in a frequency in manually and hold on it, the radio continues to record non stop between transmissions.
When the scanner is on scan mode it records normally and will stop recording when the transmitting has ended and when scanner starts scanning or searching.
Unlike the OLD Firmware where the radio would like be in "Voice Activated" mode and would record only when someone is transmitting then it will stop recording until the next transmission.

I'm guessing this an issue with the new firmware or am I missing something new here?

Thanks
Fred

 

[Voyager]

Not seeing that issue here, so it may be an issue with your unit. I was recording a channel earlier and it only recorded the active transmissions while held on that channel.

Also make sure there isn't a carrier on the channel or that you weren't tuned to a control channel.

 

[shabec]

Recordings

OK after you reply I thought I would go through some more detailed tests on this. So here is what I found. When you put the 436HP in record mode and the radio is in active scan or search mode, and it stops on a transmission the record starts with REC on the bottom of the screen and will continue to record until the transmission stops and the REC go off.. All normal there.

The problem happens in SEARCH or QUICK SEARCH mode and I'm HOLDING on a frequency. As soon as someone transmits during this time the REC shows up and stays recording even when the transmission has ended. I tried bringing the squelch up all the way up thinking this was the issue because I like to leave my squelch all the way down to 2 or 3 max 4, but I put it all the way to 15 and the REC is still going. Only time it stops recording is when I change the frequency or turn off the recording.

I never had this problem with the old Firmware so that's why I'm guessing is a bug in the Firmware.

 

[Voyager]

Again, not seeing that here. Could it be a card issue? Can you try a different card?

 

[shabec]

Recording Issue

OK Tried a different card, and went to the extreme on doing a total reset on the radio to see if it's a problem with something else programmed in the radio. NOPE still having the same issue. If there is a way to go back to 1.03.00 Firmware to check if it's the firmware or my radio I would do that next but I don't see how I can go back in firmware to test. HEY UPMan any idea??

 

[jeremyzone]

I can confirm the same behavior on my 436. Definitely a bug. I'm on the latest firmware

 

[Voyager]

Yet if it's a bug it's only a bug in some units. Doesn't make much sense, does it?

I used that mode of recording in the past week several times and the REC never 'stuck'.

 

[jeremyzone]

I've done some more testing with this issue.

It appears to be a problem with the scanner's handling of squelch in the custom search mode, NOT just the recording function per se. The reason I say that is if you set the backlight to the "Open squelch" setting, it gets "stuck" on just like the recording function does.

Also, another significant "gotcha" is that P25 digital channels are not impacted. The backlight and recording function turn on and off like they are supposed to when a P25 channel is received. It only happens for conventional channels.

It appears to be a problem with the scanner recognizing the end of the transmission. If you are held on the frequency before a transmission comes in, the scanner will sit there happy as a clam, with both recording and backlight off as normal. However, once a transmission happens, it doesn't ever stop recording and/or turn the backlight off.

Yet if it's a bug it's only a bug in some units. Doesn't make much sense, does it?

I used that mode of recording in the past week several times and the REC never 'stuck'.

Then you're not following the steps exactly or you were on a digital frequency. This issue is 100% repeatable.

First, find a conventional, analog frequency in your area that has a good amount of radio traffic (so you don't have to wait around forever).
Next, edit a custom search so that you're searching for that frequency.
Now, go to display settings and turn the backlight to the "open squelch" mode.
Now, go to "custom search" and start recording. Wait for the analog, conventional frequency to have some traffic. Once it does, hold on the frequency. After the transmission drops, your "REC" tag will stay on and your backlight will stay on until your batteries die. If you stop the recording and go replay it, it will play the "dead" space like you just experienced.

A video I took of this behavior https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-8pyOSUkHY

 

[Voyager]

Then you're not following the steps exactly or you were on a digital frequency. This issue is 100% repeatable.

First, find a conventional, analog frequency in your area that has a good amount of radio traffic (so you don't have to wait around forever).
Next, edit a custom search so that you're searching for that frequency.
Now, go to display settings and turn the backlight to the "open squelch" mode.
Now, go to "custom search" and start recording. Wait for the analog, conventional frequency to have some traffic. Once it does, hold on the frequency. After the transmission drops, your "REC" tag will stay on and your backlight will stay on until your batteries die. If you stop the recording and go replay it, it will play the "dead" space like you just experienced.

A video I took of this behavior https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-8pyOSUkHY

Nope - recordings were analog. There was activity every few minutes. I was manually entering the frequency, not using the search per se. But, entering the frequency manually does use the search function. Will try searching then holding the frequency.

 

[shabec]

Thank you

Thank you UPMan for fixing this issue with the new update. It work great now!!

 

[325xia]

Not fixed on mine. BCD436. I have found on non trucked systems, regular VHF has non stop record. Irrespective of on Hold or Scanning.

 

[shabec]

Did you update to the new Firmware??

 

[325xia]

Did you update to the new Firmware??

Absolutely. I updated it last week when it came out.

 

[325xia]

My Trunked Channels Record fine. It's just the non Trunked VHF Hi that have the non stop recording.

 

[shabec]

My Trunked Channels Record fine. It's just the non Trunked VHF Hi that have the non stop recording.

Very strange then.. I'm stumped on this one..

 

[325xia]

Very strange then.. I'm stumped on this one..

Do you scan non trunked
Frequencies? It worked fine before the last two firmware updates.

 

[shabec]

Do you scan non trunked
Frequencies? It worked fine before the last two firmware updates.

I do both trunking and non trunking and with the old firmware I had problems with non trunking freqs. But with the new update it works fine now.