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Is there a way to tell what talkgroup(s) were deleted from the database? I can see the County and Type, but I'm not sure what exactly was removed. Thanks.
 

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When your on the page in the database, click the menu and look for Change History

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Clicking what @doctordialtone posted or what I posted both bring up the last 100 edits.

Below are all the edits from yesterday and looks like maybe 10 tg's in total were deleted

Last 100 Changes
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Deleted 1 talkgroup(s) (Clinton County EMS/Hospital (19))Ronaldski2022-10-20 22:02:50
Deleted 2 talkgroup(s) (Ingham County (33) EMS/Hospital)Ronaldski2022-10-20 22:02:16
Deleted 1 talkgroup(s) (Kent County (41) Grand Rapids City)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:49:07
Updated Service Tag assignments for 2 talkgroups(Kent County (41) EMS/Hospital)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:47:31
(2) Talkgroups Updated (Kent County (41) EMS/Hospital)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:47:10
Imported Talkgroups (2 Imported, 0 Updated)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:46:55
(1) Talkgroups Updated (Kent County (41) EMS/Hospital)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:44:22
Updated Service Tag assignments for 1 talkgroups(Kent County (41) Grand Rapids City)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:41:47
(1) Talkgroups Updated (Kent County (41) Grand Rapids City)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:41:20
Imported Talkgroups (1 Imported, 0 Updated)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:40:24
Deleted 5 talkgroup(s) (Kent County (41) County Government)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:36:30
(1) Talkgroups Updated (Kent County (41) Local Government )Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:33:10
Updated Service Tag assignments for 8 talkgroups(Kent County (41) Local Government )Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:33:00
Updated mode assignments for 8 talkgroups(Kent County (41) Local Government )Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:32:54
Imported Talkgroups (8 Imported, 0 Updated)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:32:43
Changed Talkgroup Category: Kent County (41) Local Government to Kent County (41) Local Government (Kent County (41) Local GoveThunderbolt2022-10-20 20:29:42
Changed Talkgroup Category: Kent County (41) Local Government to Kent County (41) Local Government (Kent County (41) Local GoveThunderbolt2022-10-20 20:28:37
Added Talkgroup Category: Kent County (41) Local GovernmentThunderbolt2022-10-20 20:26:18
Updated Service Tag assignments for 2 talkgroups(Kent County (41) Fire/EMS Paging)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:24:02
(2) Talkgroups Updated (Kent County (41) Fire/EMS Paging)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:23:46
Imported Talkgroups (2 Imported, 0 Updated)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:23:31
(2) Talkgroups Updated (Kent County (41) Fire/EMS Paging)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:22:37
(1) Talkgroups Updated (Kent County (41) County Government)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:21:22
Updated Service Tag assignments for 1 talkgroups(Kent County (41) County Government)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:21:08
(1) Talkgroups Updated (Kent County (41) County Government)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:20:46
Changed Talkgroup Category assignments for 1 talkgroups(Kent County (41) County Government)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:19:49
(1) Talkgroups Updated (Capitol Region Common/Interop)Ronaldski2022-10-20 19:02:38
(7) Talkgroups Updated (Capitol Region Common/Interop)Ronaldski2022-10-20 18:59:31
Updated Service Tag assignments for 2 talkgroups(Ingham County (33) EMS/Hospital)Ronaldski2022-10-20 18:17:07
Updated Service Tag assignments for 1 talkgroups(Clinton County EMS/Hospital (19))Ronaldski2022-10-20 18:15:51
(3) Talkgroups Updated (Capitol Region Common/Interop)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:21:04
Updated Service Tag assignments for 2 talkgroups(Ingham County (33) EMS/Hospital)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:14:29
(2) Talkgroups Updated (Ingham County (33) EMS/Hospital)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:14:16
Changed Talkgroup Category assignments for 2 talkgroups(Ingham County (33) EMS/Hospital)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:13:48
Imported Talkgroups (2 Imported, 0 Updated)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:11:44
Updated Service Tag assignments for 1 talkgroups(Clinton County EMS/Hospital (19))Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:10:04
(1) Talkgroups Updated (Clinton County EMS/Hospital (19))Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:09:55
Imported Talkgroups (1 Imported, 0 Updated)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:08:49
(1) Talkgroups Updated (Consumers Energy)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:07:31
Updated Service Tag assignments for 1 talkgroups(Consumers Energy)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:06:51
(1) Talkgroups Updated (Consumers Energy)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:06:22
Imported Talkgroups (1 Imported, 0 Updated)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:05:35
(1) Talkgroups Updated (Consumers Energy)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:05:16
Deleted 1 talkgroup(s) (Consumers Energy)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:04:35
 

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Or PM the db admin directly and ask which talkgroup was removed.

While I could do that, it would be nice if there was a way to tell what talkgoup (specifically) changed, without having to do that. I'd like to know what talkgroups need potential updating in my scanner.

I had already seen the great info posted, but couldn't find my answer. It appears there isn't a way to do this without reaching out.

Thanks for the help everyone!
 

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It doesn't show the exact talkgroup that was removed. Only the County and type.
Right, I have that, no problem. Now WHAT 10 tg's were deleted? The TG-ID?

Sorry man. I see that now. I am not done with the first of many coffee's.

I thought there was a way to see that in a more detailed fashion.
 

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It appears there isn't a way to do this without reaching out.


Quotes from another thread,
Issue/suggestion: Where is the change history report for a system? It would be nice to be able to see a diff of what was changed, since the DBA-entered summary of the change (understandably) doesn't usually give a complete picture.

The TRS change history report is accessible from the main system page. Those comments are automatic, they are not "DBA-entered".

Maybe @blantonl could take a look and see if something could be added Change History Report to display more detail so people would not have to pm all the db admins.
 
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Is there a way to tell what talkgroup(s) were deleted from the database? I can see the County and Type, but I'm not sure what exactly was removed. Thanks.

Perform this search on the DB page..
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"deprecated"
Recently deleted TGID's should have this TAG.
 
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Perform this search on the DB page..
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"deprecated"
Recently deleted TGID's should have this TAG.

That is only if the talkgroups were marked as such by the admin. Instead it looks like they just deleted them for whatever reason. Talkgroups marked deprecated are automatically deleted after 30 days unless changed beforehand. This gives the public time to review pending deletions. After they're gone though there is still no public record of what has been deleted.
 
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Another option is to compare the RR Departments currently listed in the change log against the most current Uniden Sentinel RR DB version of the same system or a copy you have on hand in an FL.
Clicking what @doctordialtone posted or what I posted both bring up the last 100 edits.

Below are all the edits from yesterday and looks like maybe 10 tg's in total were deleted

Last 100 Changes
ChangedAdminDate
Deleted 1 talkgroup(s) (Clinton County EMS/Hospital (19))Ronaldski2022-10-20 22:02:50
Deleted 2 talkgroup(s) (Ingham County (33) EMS/Hospital)Ronaldski2022-10-20 22:02:16
Deleted 1 talkgroup(s) (Kent County (41) Grand Rapids City)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:49:07
Updated Service Tag assignments for 2 talkgroups(Kent County (41) EMS/Hospital)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:47:31
(2) Talkgroups Updated (Kent County (41) EMS/Hospital)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:47:10
Imported Talkgroups (2 Imported, 0 Updated)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:46:55
(1) Talkgroups Updated (Kent County (41) EMS/Hospital)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:44:22
Updated Service Tag assignments for 1 talkgroups(Kent County (41) Grand Rapids City)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:41:47
(1) Talkgroups Updated (Kent County (41) Grand Rapids City)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:41:20
Imported Talkgroups (1 Imported, 0 Updated)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:40:24
Deleted 5 talkgroup(s) (Kent County (41) County Government)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:36:30
(1) Talkgroups Updated (Kent County (41) Local Government )Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:33:10
Updated Service Tag assignments for 8 talkgroups(Kent County (41) Local Government )Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:33:00
Updated mode assignments for 8 talkgroups(Kent County (41) Local Government )Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:32:54
Imported Talkgroups (8 Imported, 0 Updated)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:32:43
Changed Talkgroup Category: Kent County (41) Local Government to Kent County (41) Local Government (Kent County (41) Local GoveThunderbolt2022-10-20 20:29:42
Changed Talkgroup Category: Kent County (41) Local Government to Kent County (41) Local Government (Kent County (41) Local GoveThunderbolt2022-10-20 20:28:37
Added Talkgroup Category: Kent County (41) Local GovernmentThunderbolt2022-10-20 20:26:18
Updated Service Tag assignments for 2 talkgroups(Kent County (41) Fire/EMS Paging)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:24:02
(2) Talkgroups Updated (Kent County (41) Fire/EMS Paging)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:23:46
Imported Talkgroups (2 Imported, 0 Updated)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:23:31
(2) Talkgroups Updated (Kent County (41) Fire/EMS Paging)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:22:37
(1) Talkgroups Updated (Kent County (41) County Government)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:21:22
Updated Service Tag assignments for 1 talkgroups(Kent County (41) County Government)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:21:08
(1) Talkgroups Updated (Kent County (41) County Government)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:20:46
Changed Talkgroup Category assignments for 1 talkgroups(Kent County (41) County Government)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 20:19:49
(1) Talkgroups Updated (Capitol Region Common/Interop)Ronaldski2022-10-20 19:02:38
(7) Talkgroups Updated (Capitol Region Common/Interop)Ronaldski2022-10-20 18:59:31
Updated Service Tag assignments for 2 talkgroups(Ingham County (33) EMS/Hospital)Ronaldski2022-10-20 18:17:07
Updated Service Tag assignments for 1 talkgroups(Clinton County EMS/Hospital (19))Ronaldski2022-10-20 18:15:51
(3) Talkgroups Updated (Capitol Region Common/Interop)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:21:04
Updated Service Tag assignments for 2 talkgroups(Ingham County (33) EMS/Hospital)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:14:29
(2) Talkgroups Updated (Ingham County (33) EMS/Hospital)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:14:16
Changed Talkgroup Category assignments for 2 talkgroups(Ingham County (33) EMS/Hospital)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:13:48
Imported Talkgroups (2 Imported, 0 Updated)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:11:44
Updated Service Tag assignments for 1 talkgroups(Clinton County EMS/Hospital (19))Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:10:04
(1) Talkgroups Updated (Clinton County EMS/Hospital (19))Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:09:55
Imported Talkgroups (1 Imported, 0 Updated)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:08:49
(1) Talkgroups Updated (Consumers Energy)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:07:31
Updated Service Tag assignments for 1 talkgroups(Consumers Energy)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:06:51
(1) Talkgroups Updated (Consumers Energy)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:06:22
Imported Talkgroups (1 Imported, 0 Updated)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:05:35
(1) Talkgroups Updated (Consumers Energy)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:05:16
Deleted 1 talkgroup(s) (Consumers Energy)Thunderbolt2022-10-20 14:04:35
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You can compare what changes were made...
 
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If you have a db scanner check your file, versus the next new db file. You know the county, it shouldn't be that hard to see which XYZ county EMS TG is missing on the new db file.
 

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If you have a db scanner check your file, versus the next new db file. You know the county, it shouldn't be that hard to see which XYZ county EMS TG is missing on the new db file.

This is a little difficult for me, because I almost never use the database and never did any RR database update. I put the entire MPSCS database in my scanner, myself. I was just hoping there was an easier solution that maybe I had missed? Thanks for the replies!
 
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