revisiting the Voice MMN idea. New plan

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Scratch that Idea! I emailed Mike and he said he already sold all of the radios. :cry:

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luke-1 said:
I found this ad today:

I have not contacted him yet, but looks interesting.


"I have a quanity of (63) Motorola GTX 900 Mhz (LTR) mobile radios. The model number is M11WGD4CU1AN. They are in good shape and in good working condition. These are radios only. No mics or brackets.PRICE $70.00 each plus shipping.If interested email me at mike_mauren@yahoo.com or call me at 612-910-0218.
Mike Mauren <m.mauren@comcast.net>"

Luke

Ditto...

900 Mhz. LTR radios are not easy to find used

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Hey Dave, whats the latest on getting this going? Are you still getting some more information? Buy the way there is another 900 Mhz Motorola radio avaible on ebay Item #5786115577(its looks to be the very same as the one that just ended today the one that was mention above), starting bid is $99. and also has a buy it now price of $129. Also Dave who will be the dispatcher when we do get this going? Thanks for any info you have..Tom
 

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Tom,

Don't bid on that one, It won't work.

There are only three Motos that will do what we need.

Here they are:
m11wgd4cu1an-Mobile
h11wcd4cu1an-portable w/Keypad
h11wcc4du1an-portable w/o/Keypad

Luke
 

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Steve2003 said:
Anyone know how the reception in Boulder is?

Both Thordin and Eldorado cover Boulder well but it will depend on which repeater site we elect and how the test coverage goes.

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1) Does the SMR charge airtime in addition to the monthly rate, or is it all the air-time you can use for $10?

2) I think you need to be eligable under part 90 to legaly use a part 90 SMR even if the SMR owner holds the license.
 

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Steve2003 said:
Anyone know how the reception in Boulder is?

Transmitters on El Dorado have solid signal coverage in the city of Boulder.
(i.e. Westy EDACS and FED 400)

Thorodin is fair to poor depending on where you are in Boulder. (i.e. ADCOM UHF and DTRS)

Thorodin should provide greater overall coverage.

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New info from a recent talk with triple c. The cost is $12 per month for unlimited air time. The sale rep stated that on 900mhz, the thordin, el dorado and cheyenne mtn sites are all networked together. So we can have it set up so that one talkgroup will broadcast over all three sites.

Now when programming your radio. You will need to choose whether you want it programmed for network or home system. If you choose it networked it will then be $14 a month per radio. This will allow you to automatically use the best tower site available to you. So if you are from denver and are down in the springs for the day you will still hear the TG and will be able to transmit and vice versa for a springs radio up in denver for the day.

Now if you choose to go non-networked just home area. Then your radio will be programmed to use one and only one tower site. The one that you choose. You will still be able to hear all the traffic on the TG as long as you are in range of that one tower site. Make sense I hope.

All radios will be programmed with a unique ID code that will allow the radio to be disabled remotely (it will not kill the radio it just will not allow it to transmit on the system. You will still be able to receive though). This will be used by the smr provider for non-payment issue etc.. and could also be used by the club for maintaining proper control of the system. Hopefully that function will never be used for any reason.

Before purchasing any radio for this system. I highly recommend that you contact triple c communications by phone (sorry I don't have the number beside me as I type right now) or by website/email www. tripleccom.com and they can tell you if the radio will work as long as you have the model number available.

We are still investigating who in fact will carry the system for us. We are in fact talking to triple c since they seem to have the larggest footprint available in the area for our needs. So you might want to hold off on radio purchases for a couple more days. However if you do purchase one and it ends up being the wroing model it is rather easy to get rid of it on ebay.

Triple C will program any radio to the system that is brought to them that you purchase from an outside source for a flat fee of $40.

New and used radios are available from triple c complete with charger, new batter, antenna etc starting at $225 for used and around $600 for new. The price varies with different brands and options.

Triple C has stated that our type of communications needs does fall within their scope of license and such. So I am assuming that we can legally use their system under their license with no problems. If someone knows differently please advise us.

There will be no dispatcher per say on the system. I expect it to be a professionally run system. All of you that are in fact interested and are active in the hobby recognize professional communication methods. Plain language with abbreviations such as GOA, DOA, MVA etc will be used on the system.

Anyone that is part of the membership on the system that monitors an incident can "dispatch" to the rest of the memership the incident on the TG. Updates can then be voiced by anyone with more info on that incident etc....

Incident dispatches will have priority on the system (except for true emergencies that a member might actually be involved in which in any communications means have highest priority). When indicent communications are not active, members may used the channel for communication hobby conversations as long as they are of the communications hobby. The TG is not intended for just idle chit chat. If enough members join the system and it becomes popular like I think it will. We will in the future look into adding a "tac" or "admin" TG for talk between members and such. This will leave the dispatch TG open for dispatches.
 
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(a) Persons may share a radio station only on frequencies for which
they would be eligible for a separate authorization.


Show how your "Loose association" would quallify for its own license.

You may need to incorporate.
 

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N_Jay said:
(a) Persons may share a radio station only on frequencies for which
they would be eligible for a separate authorization.


Show how your "Loose association" would quallify for its own license.

You may need to incorporate.

Mountain NewsNet is already incorporated and has been since 1992 with over 500 members statewide.

Additionally we have started a list server specific to the new radio system;

mnn-radio-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

Jim< MNN-001
Mountain NewsNet, Inc
http://www.scancolorado.com/mnn.html
 
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jimmnn said:
N_Jay said:
(a) Persons may share a radio station only on frequencies for which
they would be eligible for a separate authorization.


Show how your "Loose association" would qualify for its own license.

You may need to incorporate.

Mountain NewsNet is already incorporated and has been since 1992 with over 500 members statewide.

Additionally we have started a list server specific to the new radio system;

mnn-radio-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

Jim< MNN-001
Mountain NewsNet, Inc
http://www.scancolorado.com/mnn.html

Good.

Now take your "purpose" as listed in your incorporation papers and find a section in Part 90 that makes you eligible.
 

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N_Jay said:
scanlist said:
And your point is?
The POINT IS;
Make sure you are using the system legally.
Was that not clear?

You already made your point several times; steps should be taken to ensure legality.
Next time you actually travel up to our fair state of Colorado, come by and try the system out.

-Mark
 

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has anyone contacted CCNC about using the state system? I am sure it is a long shot, but it would be pretty cool to be on the state system. It would be neat if scanner users could talk on a mac channel or something of that nature to give support to emergency personel. If we could get on that system, then we would have statewide coverage! I know they grant access to some weather groups.
 

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Steve2003 said:
has anyone contacted CCNC about using the state system? I am sure it is a long shot, but it would be pretty cool to be on the state system. It would be neat if scanner users could talk on a mac channel or something of that nature to give support to emergency personel. If we could get on that system, then we would have statewide coverage! I know they grant access to some weather groups.

Private Ambulance companies (some with 911 contracts) are not even allowed access, so why it's an interesting thought we are going to pursue other avenues.

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RF-Intel said:
N_Jay said:
scanlist said:
And your point is?
The POINT IS;
Make sure you are using the system legally.
Was that not clear?

You already made your point several times; steps should be taken to ensure legality.
Next time you actually travel up to our fair state of Colorado, come by and try the system out.

-Mark

Yes, I know, but he seemed to have to ask. :wink:

See you in August.

http://apco2005.org/MS/MS11/page.php?p=257
 

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N_Jay said:
Yes, I know, but he seemed to have to ask.

Obvious to me as well however you failed to recognize the keyword "your".

You seem obsessed on whether or not the people behind this idea are allowed to do business with a private SMR? Why is that? Does this personally take something away from you? What does it matter.

FCC cop syndrome?

It's amazing how much nonesense Jim encounters from people and keeps on going.

Phil.
 
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