RG6 Coax an F Connectors

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I picked up a BCD996XT last weekend and a RS antenna. I installed it in the attic using RG6 --> F connector -> PL-259/BNC adapters respectively. I get better reception then it sitting it on top of my desk, but i'm still not that impressed. Am i losing anything with the RG6 and F connectors? The coax run is 20-25 ft

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I picked up a BCD996XT last weekend and a RS antenna. I installed it in the attic using RG6 --> F connector -> PL-259/BNC adapters respectively. I get better reception then it sitting it on top of my desk, but i'm still not that impressed. Am i losing anything with the RG6 and F connectors? The coax run is 20-25 ft

http://i.imgur.com/MIwBC3Z.jpg

What type of antenna do you have, get away from rg-6 it is 75 ohm cable , use a 50 ohm cable, what type of connector does the BCD996XT use, maybe go from pl-259 to the type of connector on the scanner.
 

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The F connectors are not the problem; except maybe on 800 the F-UHF-BNC combination is not so good.
You can get a BNC Connector for RG-6 Cable, I use them all the time, see if that makes a difference.
 

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Am i losing anything with the RG6 and F connectors? The coax run is 20-25 ft
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With that length of coax I don't think your coax loss is enough to worry about.

I use good quality RG6 and compression connectors almost exclusively.

I run 40+ scanners, receivers, and some USB dongles up into the GHz range and I've never had a problem.

Rich

Edit: Here's an example. Milsat reception from a Scantenna feeding 32 scanners.
Fed with RG6 (With a preamp at the antenna)
Milsat Satcom Satellite SDRSharp with Eztv668 SDR dongle e4000 chip - YouTube
 
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I picked up a BCD996XT last weekend and a RS antenna. I installed it in the attic using RG6 --> F connector -> PL-259/BNC adapters respectively. I get better reception then it sitting it on top of my desk, but i'm still not that impressed. Am i losing anything with the RG6 and F connectors? The coax run is 20-25 ft

http://i.imgur.com/MIwBC3Z.jpg

You fail to mention what frequencies you're interested in monitoring (links to them from the RR database will be very helpful!). Since an antenna and associated coax are frequency dependent, an answer for the VHF-Low band (think 30 - 50 MHz) could be quite different from one for the 800 MHz band. Without any specifics, here is some general guidelines based on what is provided.

That antenna is generally designed for the VHF-Hi band, with some performance in the UHF band. If you listen there it should work fine for you. If you listen to the VHF-Low band or 700/800/900 MHz bands you will have limited performance using that antenna (it'll work fine for strong signals, but weak ones may not be strong enough to pick up well using the scanner).

The RG-6 is a 75 ohm coax while your antenna and scanner are both optimized for 50 ohms. While this could be important if you transmit, it will not be an issue for most scanner users. If the tiny fraction of a dB loss is that important to your installation, you have larger issues than the 75 vs. 50 ohm difference. RG-6 is designed to be a low loss coax for use on the standard Broadcast-TV and Cable-TV frequencies. Since the scanner frequencies generally fall between the TV channels, it is a good choice for scanner use.

While adapters do increase loss, if you have quality adapters that are attached correctly you shouldn't see any difference for most scanner installs. If you need half-a-dozen to make your transition from the connector on the coax to where it needs to plug in you may have some noticeable loss. One adapter on each end of the coax, not so much.

The best thing going for you is your 20 - 25 foot run of coax. With that short of a run, unless you have a really bad choice of coax (think that very thin and extremely lossy RG-174) or are trying to listen to frequencies well above 1 GHz your loss isn't going to be enough to worry about.

Things to check out on your install is:
1) is everything tight and installed correctly?
2) is the antenna designed for the frequency you're wanting to use it on (note the phrase "designed for"! Often the designer will create a design that works great on the one or two bands they're creating the antenna for and then the marketing department will write all over the package that it will "Also works on xxx, yyy, zzz" so it will sell more units. Be smart enough to know that "works on" doesn't really indicate that it "works well on".)
3) are there any nicks, kinks, or other abnormalities in the coax run that indicate it may be damaged?
 

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Thanks for all the feedback. I was probably a bit vague when i said not too impressed.

I am primarily interested in monitoring 800Mhz trunked systems, however I also interested in VHF monitoring as well (100-200 Mhz/400-500Mhz) range.

I live near the pink marker: http://i.imgur.com/qqSaWwo.png

I can pickup McKinney without issue, Prosper and Frisco I am able to get sometimes, and the PAWM (Plano, allen) system I cannot receive at all. Marker to Prosper is about 9-10Mi.

That being said -- it seems like I have have made the wrong antenna choice for 800Mhz.

Outdoor VHF-Hi/UHF Scanner Antenna : Scanner Antennas | RadioShack.com

Should I stick to a VHF-low -> UHF or go with something more tuned to 800 MHz?

Thanks again -- and thanks to the mod that moved the thread. :)
 
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What type of roofing material is on your house? If its traditional shingles you are ok but if its a metal roof then an attic antenna will not work very well.
 

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What type of connectors did you use? Crimp, compression? Also check for shorts in the coax, I have seen multiple times a single braid touching the center conductor at one end of the coax or another kill most of the signal.
 

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Right now I have a PL259 compression with a BNC adapter to the scanner. I would like to cut the PL259 and the connector off the RG6 and solder the cables together. I would use a BNC adapter on the end of the RG6 to the scanner.
Is there any chance I will damage the scanner by using a 50 ohm cable connected to a 75 ohm cable.
I’m not worried about signal loss since the police station is only a few blocks from my house and the sheriff station is about a mile east of the house.
Thanks.
 
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