Sacramento Regional Radio Communications System

[AA6KA]

No Idea When

Does this mean that Sacto has already gotten the Region 6 rebanding plan approved, completed their negotiations with Nextel, and obtained the frequencies? Wow. Now that is fast.

Just passing info from several of the BC's from Sac metro fire. They are saying that is what was passed on to them. If it is incorrect than Oh well thought I would be helpful in passing on info. I guess if you really look at it NO-ONE really knows when this will happen.

 

[cms]

basically

site 001 will be one system
site 002 will be another system

The talk groups contained in the database should be entered into each system.
So, if you want to listen to Sac Sheriff, program their talk groups into both systems ( site 001 and site 002 )

So would you do the same on the rs pro-2096? Right now I have it with everything in one system and 8 control channels. Down in the south area, listening to south area conversations can be very scratchy. Wonder if I am listening from the wrong system.

 

[servo_fan]

So would you do the same on the rs pro-2096? Right now I have it with everything in one system and 8 control channels.

If the 2096 uses the concept of "systems" instead of banks, then I would say yes, make one system for site 1 and one system for site 2.

Down in the south area, listening to south area conversations can be very scratchy.

I'm also out in the south(east) area, and a lot of the time site 1 is scratchy.

 

[RolnCode3]

I have my 2096 running with 4 banks for the trunked system.

Bank 1 has all of the County LE.
Bank 2 has all of the incorporated City LE (CH, Sac, Folsom, EG)
Bank 8 has all of the City local government
Bank 9 has all of the County local government.

Bank 8 and 9 only have 4 control channels each.
Bank 1 and 2 have all 8 control channels.

If you are using Win96, I could send you a copy of my file so you get an idea of one way to set everything up.

 

[servo_fan]

Just out of curiosty, does anyone with a 396 listen to any of the digital talkgroups? How do they sound? When the time comes I think there's going to be a lot of us that will need to buy new scanners and I've been a little worried about some of the things I've read in the Uniden forum regarding the audio quality on the 396. I like a lot of the features on the 396, but ultimately sound quality is the most important to me, and people like me will have to choose between the Pro-96 and the 396. I guess I'm doing a little advanced research before I probably have to upgrade next year.

 

[Sac916]

Just out of curiosty, does anyone with a 396 listen to any of the digital talkgroups? How do they sound? When the time comes I think there's going to be a lot of us that will need to buy new scanners and I've been a little worried about some of the things I've read in the Uniden forum regarding the audio quality on the 396. I like a lot of the features on the 396, but ultimately sound quality is the most important to me, and people like me will have to choose between the Pro-96 and the 396. I guess I'm doing a little advanced research before I probably have to upgrade next year.

I've got a 396, and it's a bit ' warbly ' at times.

It sounds like a digitalized transmission, if that makes sense.
You can tell the difference.

It CAN be crystal clear when you have a good signal,
At times it's a bit warbly, especiallly when the
scanner makes it's auto "adjustments" to the digital signal.

The bad news is - you do have to have a pretty solid signal to
get a decent digital audio on your scanner.

 

[servo_fan]

The bad news is - you do have to have a pretty solid signal to
get a decent digital audio on your scanner.

Thanks. I was a little worried you were going to say that.

The "solid signal" thing could be a problem for those of us who sometimes get scratchy audio when listening to site 1. I'd hate to spend all that money and then get warbly, or less than decent audio. Any Pro-96 users out there to compare its performance with the 396 on the SRRCS?

 

[swat]

Well the Digital kinda sounds like a Digital Cell Phone if that helps. I can also record something for you if you would like. I really dont here much on the Sac city or County. I listen to Davis

 

[califzeph]

I've heard digital on my Pro 96 from Los Rios District PD and Davis PD, and both sound loud and clear. No distortion of any sort.

 

[gmclam]

Hello everyone in the Greater Sacramento area. I am a (TV) broadcaster & product designer and have been monitoring in this area since circa 1975. I only found this web site a couple of weeks ago - thank you very much.
When my old trunking codes stopped talking a few weeks ago, it was clear some major change had taken place. After pouring through data from various places, and mostly using information found here and already in my possession, that is no longer the case. The reason for this post is what I believe are some omissions from the database and/or post dated 08-03-2006.
First, I have heard (analog) voice communications on virtually all frequencies listed as control frequencies.
Second, I believe the following frequencies are missing from site 1: 866.0500, 866.5875, 867.1250, 867.3125, 867.3750, 867.4625, 867.6500, 867.8750, 868.3375.
Next, I believe the following frequencies are missing from site 2: 867.4375, 867.6250, 867.8375, 868.1375, 868.2375, 868.6125.
Next, under the old trunking codes Sacramento Metro (county) Fire had channels designated as B6 thru B9 (03280, 03312, 03344 & 03376 respectively). I am still hearing dispatch assign incidents to these channels, but the trunking codes are not listed. Do not confuse Metro Fire B6-B9 with City Fire B6-B9, they are different channels/codes. Does anyone know the new codes for these channels?
Lastly, last time I checked this web site does not have a listing for the city of Davis. I just downloaded a list from another source (but have not checked it). Please advise if you need that info.
Best regards,

 

[RolnCode3]

Next, under the old trunking codes Sacramento Metro (county) Fire had channels designated as B6 thru B9 (03280, 03312, 03344 & 03376 respectively). I am still hearing dispatch assign incidents to these channels, but the trunking codes are not listed. Do not confuse Metro Fire B6-B9 with City Fire B6-B9, they are different channels/codes. Does anyone know the new codes for these channels?
Lastly, last time I checked this web site does not have a listing for the city of Davis. I just downloaded a list from another source (but have not checked it). Please advise if you need that info.
Best regards,

Davis is listed in Yolo County. They definitely have an entry in the database.

Sac Metro Fire has NEVER been "assigned" B Fire channels. They will go to events which are on the B channels, but B is designated for Sac City, and A is for Metro and all of the other City Fire Depts. and FPDs. There is no "Metro Fire B6-B9". Metro Fire's are "A6-A9" (in addition to other talkgroups).

 

[Sac916]

First, I have heard (analog) voice communications on virtually all frequencies listed as control frequencies.


Second, I believe the following frequencies are missing from site 1: 866.0500, 866.5875, 867.1250, 867.3125, 867.3750, 867.4625, 867.6500, 867.8750, 868.3375.

Next, I believe the following frequencies are missing from site 2: 867.4375, 867.6250, 867.8375, 868.1375, 868.2375, 868.6125.

Next, under the old trunking codes Sacramento Metro (county) Fire had channels designated as B6 thru B9 (03280, 03312, 03344 & 03376 respectively). I am still hearing dispatch assign incidents to these channels, but the trunking codes are not listed. Do not confuse Metro Fire B6-B9 with City Fire B6-B9, they are different channels/codes. Does anyone know the new codes for these channels?

All of the Talk Group IDs you need are at this link
( including fire depts )
http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&sid=4499


You will hear voice transmission on control channels when they are not being used as a control channel. The system rotates the use of a control channel.



Here is an accurate list of the frequencies for each site

WNXW543 Site 001
http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&action=fcc&cs=WNXW543

WNYR751 Site 002
http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&action=fcc&cs=WNYR751

 

[gmclam]

All system frequencies not listed

You wrote:

Here is an accurate list of the frequencies for each site

WNXW543 Site 001
http://www.radioreference.com/module...fcc&cs=WNXW543

WNYR751 Site 002
http://www.radioreference.com/module...fcc&cs=WNYR751

Thank you. The links posted above show all of the frequencies. However, the frequencies list here: http://www.radioreference.com/module...me=RR&sid=4499
do not include the frequencies I posted earlier. For example, site 1 clearly shows 866.0500 but that is not listed as a "system frequency".

Best regards,
George

 

[Sac916]

You wrote:


Thank you. The links posted above show all of the frequencies. However, the frequencies list here: http://www.radioreference.com/module...me=RR&sid=4499
do not include the frequencies I posted earlier. For example, site 1 clearly shows 866.0500 but that is not listed as a "system frequency".

Best regards,
George

The frequencies contained in the main database is a partial list.
http://radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&sid=4499

Recently, there was a lot of frequency migration from one system to another as part of a overall system upgrade. For a while, only "some" of the frequencies were being utilized. I can only guess that the RR.com admin for this hasn't gotten around to updating RR.com's database. But yes, you are correct, the above link does not contain ALL of the freqs currently used for this Sacramento trunked system.

 

[74596]

"The frequencies contained in the main database is a partial list."


Does that mean if I want to efficiently monitor SITE1, I would have to enter in all the frequencies listed here? : http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&action=fcc&cs=WNXW543


The same for SITE2, would I have to enter in the frequencies listed here? : http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&action=fcc&cs=WNYR751


THANKS IN ADVANCE!

 

[Sac916]

"The frequencies contained in the main database is a partial list."


Does that mean if I want to efficiently monitor SITE1, I would have to enter in all the frequencies listed here? : http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&action=fcc&cs=WNXW543


The same for SITE2, would I have to enter in the frequencies listed here? : http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&action=fcc&cs=WNYR751


THANKS IN ADVANCE!

I know this is a very long thread -but it explains in detail - the best way to monitor the system. Basically the answer is yes. Unless you have a " Control Channel Only " capable scanner. One bank should have Site 001 freqs and the another bank with Site 002 freqs. It's quite a read, but this thread goes into detail about the various issues of monitoring a multi-site trunked radio system.

 

[kma371]

It's just much easier to listen to the system on a scanner that has a "Control Channel Only" function. That way you can just enter control channel frequencies for either site and still hear everything.

Site 1 Control Channels
868.6375
868.6625
868.8250
868.9000

Site 2 Control Channels
868.5375
868.7375
868.9375
868.9625

If anyone needs a 396 or 996 UASD file for their scanners, PM me and I will send you mine. I have every law enforcement and EMS channel available.

 

[servo_fan]

Not to complicate matters, but according to the Pro-96 manual, I believe you can put all 8 control channels in one bank. I don't know if this is possible on other RS scanners. The following is taken from the manual on page 32.

Certain multi-zone Motorola systems use the same talkgroup IDs at multiple radio sites to cover a large geographical area. In these types of systems it may be possible to program multiple control channel frequencies into the same channel storage bank and allow the scanner to lock on to the different control channels as you move from zone to zone. This approach only works in networked systems where the same talkgroup IDs are used at multiple sites.

 

[WayneH]

I can only guess that the RR.com admin for this hasn't gotten around to updating RR.com's database.

If someone can get around to submitting them I can update the DB.

-Wayne

 

[gmclam]

Frequencies missing in Sacramento Trunk List

If someone can get around to submitting them I can update the DB.

-Wayne

Hi Wayne. The database lists all the frequencies correctly. It is the trunking list for Sacramento (http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&sid=4499http://www.radioreference.com/module...me=RR&sid=4499) which does not list all of the frequencies used for the trunks. The following frequencies are missing from site 1: 866.0500, 866.5875, 867.1250, 867.3125, 867.3750, 867.4625, 867.6500, 867.8750, 868.3375. The following frequencies are missing from site 2: 867.4375, 867.6250, 867.8375, 868.1375, 868.2375, 868.6125.

Thanks,
George