Sacramento Regional Radio Communications System

[Mach_1]

I have a question relating to the Sacramento County Fire talkgroups:

With Sac Metro FD using the "A" channels and Sac City FD using the "B" channels, who uses the "C" and "D" groups? I had both C & D dispatch in my scanner for a bit, but never heard a peep. Apologies if this has been covered before, I looked through this thread and a few others and did not see an answer.

Thanks!

 

[Sac916]

I have a question relating to the Sacramento County Fire talkgroups:

With Sac Metro FD using the "A" channels and Sac City FD using the "B" channels, who uses the "C" and "D" groups? I had both C & D dispatch in my scanner for a bit, but never heard a peep. Apologies if this has been covered before, I looked through this thread and a few others and did not see an answer.

Thanks!

I believe it's mostly allocated for "future use". However, I have heard "training" on Fire D channels.

 

[RolnCode3]

There is also a "T" bank set up for training. C, D, and T get very little use.

 

[sacscan]

Incorrect SRRCS freqs in database

I noticed that 867.625 and 868.6125 have popped up again in the database. Why? I have been listening to SRRCS since 1995 when it first went on the air as the old City and County systems. I have NEVER heard those two frequencies active as part of the SRRCS.

Those two frequencies were in a few old frequency directories years ago, but most people wised up and removed them. My 2005 Police Call has the correct frequencies, and so have all my previous editions of Police Call.

The first time I saw these two frequencies in the database I notified RR and they removed them. Since they have been added again, maybe antfreq or somebody who is more well-known than little old me could contact RR and let them know that these frequencies aren't part of the SRRCS?

 

[gmclam]

It was my fault

I noticed that 867.625 and 868.6125 have popped up again in the database. Why? I have been listening to SRRCS since 1995 when it first went on the air as the old City and County systems. I have NEVER heard those two frequencies active as part of the SRRCS.

Those two frequencies were in a few old frequency directories years ago, but most people wised up and removed them. My 2005 Police Call has the correct frequencies, and so have all my previous editions of Police Call.

Thank you for catching this. I think it was my fault. The trunking list did not show all of the frequencies being used for trunking and I asked to have some frequencies added back. Those two were on my list. I am not sure where I obtained those two frequencies on my personal list, but I concur that they are not listed in Police Call, etc.

So I agree that 867.6250 and 868.6125 should not be on the Sacramento trunk list, or shown in the DB.

Best regards,
George

 

[sacscan]

Thank you for catching this. I think it was my fault. The trunking list did not show all of the frequencies being used for trunking and I asked to have some frequencies added back. Those two were on my list. I am not sure where I obtained those two frequencies on my personal list, but I concur that they are not listed in Police Call, etc.

So I agree that 867.6250 and 868.6125 should not be on the Sacramento trunk list, or shown in the DB.

Best regards,
George

No problem. I think the old Sacramento Valley Scanning Guide (published by The Radio Place before they went out of business) may have had those two frequencies in it. I can't confirm that because I ripped out the Sac trunking pages when the latest SRRCS upgrade was completed. Since the talkgroups have all changed I figured those pages were a waste of space.

 

[WayneH]

So I agree that 867.6250 and 868.6125 should not be on the Sacramento trunk list, or shown in the DB.

Done.

 

[mts200]

can a mts2000 be set up to wark Digita

ok i was talking to a uc davis police officer and.he sed his mts2000 wark on the Digita net. rt pd sed the same.is that true.or can it bee

 

[Sac916]

Nope, MTS2000 are not digital or P25 capable. They are also no longer produced or supported by Motorola.

However, the newer version, XTS2500 is digital and P25 ready.

 

[pfish]

ok i was talking to a uc davis police officer and.he sed his mts2000 wark on the Digita net. rt pd sed the same.is that true.or can it bee

I know several UC Davis officers...I think what they mean is that they work on the new SRRCS system, which they know as "digital" -- Since all the agencies UCD affiliates at the Med Center use analog talkgroups on the SRRCS, they say it works. I know 4K925 has the SPD/SSD talkgroups in his radio.

 

[RolnCode3]

Well, wherever the new alphatags came from for most of the County LG, they're what I show (at least the few I looked at). The original submitter didn't have what the radio shop does...

 

[WayneH]

Well, wherever the new alphatags came from for most of the County LG, they're what I show (at least the few I looked at). The original submitter didn't have what the radio shop does...

The original alpha tags, many which are still in the DB, aren't reflective of what's programmed into subscriber radios. The original data came from the Zone Controller database. They're more or less for the ZC's use, like aliasing for logs, etc.

The *other* list is used primarily by the radio techs for subscriber programming. Two independent lists.

-Wayne

 

[RolnCode3]

Ah ha. Now I understand. Thanks, Wayne.

 

[imperiousofher]

I would like to know if anyone can recomend a antenna I could mount out side that will work if I upgrade to digital scanner. I am a newbie as i am sure some of you can tell. I am currently using a BCT8 and like to monitor all bands but mainly the the trunking bands

 

[avtarsingh]

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it tunes and works on CB and on 6 meters and is VERY GOOD on vhf and uhf and 800 works great

so overall you are getting a diamond discone antenna that works BETTER than a diamond on low band
i hope this helps
also that cqantenna guy ships most of them priority mail-so you get them fast

 

[WayneH]

I would like to know if anyone can recomend a antenna I could mount out side that will work if I upgrade to digital scanner. I am a newbie as i am sure some of you can tell. I am currently using a BCT8 and like to monitor all bands but mainly the the trunking bands

Welcome to the board. Please be advised that replying to a topic with an unrelated question is considered "thread hijacking."

There is an excellent forum for antennas plus the search is invaluable for questions like this.

 

[servo_fan]

I know this is a subjective question, but in the last few days to a week, has anyone besides me noticed that site 1 is sounding worse? I do most of my listening while at work in El Dorado Hills, and while the site 1 audio quality has never been great from up here, it has definitely gotten worse in the last few days. I'm mainly hearing a rhythmic buzzing/static noise that sounds like it's playing on a quick loop. I Has anyone else noticed any site 1 sound degredation from where you listen?

 

[gmclam]

Sacramento site 1 vs site 2

I listen to both the Sacramento County and the City sites. I have been paying extra attention to what actual frequencies are being used and what talk groups are active. I have experienced a few things.
1. The city site is usually more scratchy, but that makes sense due to distance from me.
2. Some frequencies from the city site are always clear (in Fair Oaks).
3. Some frequencies from the county site MAY be scratchy from time to time, but it seems to be frequency dependant.
4. I have tried to follow a conversation on a specific trunk ID, and found them switching control channels from the city to county or visa versa in the middle of a conversation (but obviously only when a transmission is re-keyed).

I have been using two different scanners (a PRO-92 & PRO-95) to follow the action and they behave very differently but "agree" on the above.


George

 

[servo_fan]

Why would some frequencies be more scratchy sounding than others? If some site 1 freqs come in clear, then shouldn't all of them? Aren't they all coming from the same towers?

In just a short period today I've noticed these site 1 frequencies are more scratchy than others:
867.3125
866.5875
867.0500

 

[gmclam]

During the night time hours (after midnight), I've been listening to all channels from both sites. During the day there is so much traffic I turn off the PD and most traffic from the city site.

This morning I noticed that traffic from the city site (I was not paying attention to voice channels) was scratchier than usual so I locked out that control channel... and I turned off the PD as I usually do.

I've been noticing lately that channels with frequencies of 866.xxxx, regardless of whether they are on the city or county site, have been more difficult to receive. Just yesterday I was locked into an activity on CH PD 1 and sometimes I could not hear what they were saying. As soon as they unkeyed, and rekeyed, and a new channel was assigned, it was perfect. When it was unreadable it was always an 866.xxxx receive frequency, and in this case they were on the county control channel.

Note: I have never heard traffic from city 866.0500. It might be because the talk groups I listen to are not ever assigned those channels, or it might be a weak channel.

Another note: I've been paying attention to the physical channel being used with regard to the talkgroup ID. I've found that certain TG IDs will use a max of about 4 different frequencies in rotation. When we had the funeral last week they used IDs I had not listened in on before, and surely enough, they came up on some channels I had not received from before. They must do this so that garbage collectors are not on PD freqs and Sewer workers on Sheriff freqs or something like that.

I appreciate any insight others have.
George