Santiago Peak fire damage

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The attached photo was sent to me and is apparently one of the vaults at Santiago Peak after the Airport Fire reached the top.

Can anyone validate this and share which tenants/repeaters occupied this building?
 

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It was initially shared second or thirdhand with no caption. Supposedly Santiago when I followed up, but no other info was given.

If not Santiago, I wondered if it could be another mountaintop.
 

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From news footage I saw it appeared they saved all the buildings on Santiago Peak but there is Modjeska peak radio site less than a mile south and also Pleasents peak radio site a little north that could have been damaged.
 

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Like prcguy, I too believe they saved all the buildings. Additionally, I don't know of any buildings at Santiago that had an unreinforced corrugated metal roof, which it looks like this one has/had.
 

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There are a number of smaller sites in the CNF that it could have been, especially down the east side (like Elsinore Peak) and south toward Ortega Hwy, that may have been involved. There was certainly flame in the canyon between Modjeska and Santiago, but I don't know if it came over Modjeska to get there or burned up that canyon from below. We know it came right up to Santiago and did some melting there.
 

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Could be Keller from Line or one of the towers in Wrightwood area 🤷🏼‍♂️
Not Keller. Most of the equipment up there is in a former AT&T Long Lines site that is completely cinderblock and has multiple levels.
I was just up at Blueridge (aka Frost Peak) above Wrightwood on Friday. No buildings were damaged, but several of the sites are still without power.
 
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Yeah Hopefully Strawberry Peak is okay and safe. Huge observation tower and massive amounts of radio communication equipment and microwave towers. This would be very much a serious disaster.

Was the damage to this radio communication room at Santiago Peak or maybe somewhere else? Crazy. Lots of clean up and re-building with more top end equipment. It's hard to take the loss but it will be upgraded to the best of the best moving forward.

Sometimes forest have to burn to have new growth and green sprouts in the spring time with all the rain. It's just a cycle of life and the world. The radio comm room will be better than it already was. All new power equipment and network WAN connection with LAN too. Also, new wiring and servers and repeaters. That's the positive side of everything even though there was a lot of loss and looks so bad. Let's see how this place looks in one to two years from now or even shorter.

Let's get a Star Link Business Dish up there to provide full interenet connection to the top of the peak. High Speed Star-Link Internet Connection at high speed. Provide hardwire WAN/LAN Ethernet connection as well as high speed WiFi to the peak or wherever this fire damage damaged a radio comm room

You can pipe into the cloud HAM DMR repeaters and public safety repeaters into the newer cloud based systems provided from Motorola. This is the new high speed link to the cloud based systems. Might be-able to do away with microwave towers. If cruise ships are using several Star-link dishes which these mega ships are mini cities. Have a few dishes for the speed that you want and pipe them into together. The technology is there now. Low orbiting satellites for latency issues that had issues for years with Hughes Dish Internet. Huge latency issues with the satellites that were placed in a higher orbiting part of space when this is all we had at the time. There is a hardware piece of equipment Star-Link most likely provides to cruise ships with heavy data back and forth to the internet. This is the reason why they have multiple Star-Link satellites internet dishes.

Space-X fixed the latency issues with multiple satellites and laser beam connection between all the satellites in a lower orbit back and forth from earth and space.. Also, more ground based Fiber speed and maybe even something better to feed space with informaiton back and forth. Its pretty amazing stuff. The speed comes from better technology as well as low orbiting satellites. I am sure Elon got approval to get the best of the best speeds to the main pipe to the world.
 
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Not sure if many people remember but the internet was created in SoCal. Sorry for the confusing but its interesting it begame in 1969 between UCLA and Stanford. Pretty cool to think about how things started. Then I think it was connected to USC and Cal-Tech and JPL in The Los Angeles Area by some very smart individuals.
 

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Let's get a Star Link Business Dish up there to provide full interenet connection to the top of the peak. High Speed Star-Link Internet Connection at high speed. Provide hardwire WAN/LAN Ethernet connection as well as high speed WiFi to the peak or wherever this fire damage damaged a radio comm room

You can pipe into the cloud HAM DMR repeaters and public safety repeaters into the newer cloud based systems provided from Motorola.

You *really* don't understand how any of this works...
 

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Yeah Hopefully Strawberry Peak is okay and safe. Huge observation tower and massive amounts of radio communication equipment and microwave towers. This would be very much a serious disaster.

Was the damage to this radio communication room at Santiago Peak or maybe somewhere else? Crazy. Lots of clean up and re-building with more top end equipment. It's hard to take the loss but it will be upgraded to the best of the best moving forward.

Sometimes forest have to burn to have new growth and green sprouts in the spring time with all the rain. It's just a cycle of life and the world. The radio comm room will be better than it already was. All new power equipment and network WAN connection with LAN too. Also, new wiring and servers and repeaters. That's the positive side of everything even though there was a lot of loss and looks so bad. Let's see how this place looks in one to two years from now or even shorter.

Let's get a Star Link Business Dish up there to provide full interenet connection to the top of the peak. High Speed Star-Link Internet Connection at high speed. Provide hardwire WAN/LAN Ethernet connection as well as high speed WiFi to the peak or wherever this fire damage damaged a radio comm room

You can pipe into the cloud HAM DMR repeaters and public safety repeaters into the newer cloud based systems provided from Motorola. This is the new high speed link to the cloud based systems. Might be-able to do away with microwave towers. If cruise ships are using several Star-link dishes which these mega ships are mini cities. Have a few dishes for the speed that you want and pipe them into together. The technology is there now. Low orbiting satellites for latency issues that had issues for years with Hughes Dish Internet. Huge latency issues with the satellites that were placed in a higher orbiting part of space when this is all we had at the time. There is a hardware piece of equipment Star-Link most likely provides to cruise ships with heavy data back and forth to the internet. This is the reason why they have multiple Star-Link satellites internet dishes.

Space-X fixed the latency issues with multiple satellites and laser beam connection between all the satellites in a lower orbit back and forth from earth and space.. Also, more ground based Fiber speed and maybe even something better to feed space with informaiton back and forth. Its pretty amazing stuff. The speed comes from better technology as well as low orbiting satellites. I am sure Elon got approval to get the best of the best speeds to the main pipe to the world.
Never even came close to Strawberry Peak
 

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You *really* don't understand how any of this works...
You sound so negative. Trust me I am a network cloud engineer and know routers and routing tables and so on. Please re-fran from saying negative comments since you do not know me personally. I am pretty sure I know how technology is going and the future of communications.

Honestly if you have nothing positive to say please do not say it at all. If you don't know somebody personally and their credentials its probably best to move on and just stay quiet.
 

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You sound so negative. Trust me I am a network cloud engineer and know routers and routing tables and so on. Please re-fran from saying negative comments since you do not know me personally. I am pretty sure I know how technology is going and the future of communications.

Honestly if you have nothing positive to say please do not say it at all. If you don't know somebody personally and their credentials its probably best to move on and just stay quiet.
But your comment on getting Elon's Internet into a burned out mountain top repeater building as a fix is not realistic. Most of the comms from these buildings involves reception and retransmission from that specific mountain top. How are you going to get public service or amateur or whatever comms normally received at that mountain top into the internet and and how are you going to then transmit those comms from the internet to the pre programmed mobiles and handhelds out there that no longer have the mountain top infrastructure to communicate?
 

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Honestly if you have nothing positive to say please do not say it at all. If you don't know somebody personally and their credentials its probably best to move on and just stay quiet.
While making assumptions about your abilities as a network engineer is probably inappropriate for this thread, you are not in the position to tell someone "to not say it at all" or "just stay quiet". If you have a problem with the posts in this thread, please report the post so the moderators can deal with it. Do not play moderator yourself.
 
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