scanner stopped picking up police channels

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chrislcool

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Same issue here with BCD436HP. Was was working great....now no Puyallup, Sumner, Bonney Lake, Lakewood, Tacoma N & S. Not a pro at this by no means but any guidance would be great.

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Chris
 

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Omg I just saw your post and turned my scanner back on and BAM everything is also back up. I would love to know what happened. I am very glad because I was going through scanner withdrawals my family however is not as happy. Oh well.
 

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The only thing we got back today is Lakewood and Tacoma N & S. We still don't have Bonney Lake, Sumner and Puyallup PD. Any suggestions?
 

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Hmm the only thing I did was shut off the scanner for a day. Then I saw the post saying it came back on so I turned on my scanner and everything was there. I don't have a clue.
 

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Hmm the only thing I did was shut off the scanner for a day. Then I saw the post saying it came back on so I turned on my scanner and everything was there. I don't have a clue.
This sounds like a classic case of the system switching to a control channel we don't have listed. Has anyone looked at the FCC DB with the associated license to see what frequencies are licensed to them?
 

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That sounds like a better theory than what I had. A few hours before I lost the police channels someone reported a UFO and had video of it. Or that the police department went Encrypted. As you can see I know very little of how these things work but I am very appreciated that there are people that are very intelligent in these things.
 

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The other thought is that encryption is being used by some departments. If that is the case your scanners will ignore the transmissions. I am not able to pickup PSRS or South Sound systems so I can't say for sure. However I regard Wilrobinson as being very creditability. So his post about picking up those PD's without any problems leads me to believe that individuals may be experiencing some other issue such as multi-path issues or perhaps their setup and decode rates.
 

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The other thought is that encryption is being used by some departments. If that is the case your scanners will ignore the transmissions. I am not able to pickup PSRS or South Sound systems so I can't say for sure. However I regard Wilrobinson as being very creditability. So his post about picking up those PD's without any problems leads me to believe that individuals may be experiencing some other issue such as multi-path issues or perhaps their setup and decode rates.
Thanks Randy ;)

I figured out the problem others are having with the reply above from "Jeanken". IIRC, this Sentinel program uses the RR database, correct? The issue is that the DB hasn't been updated since the summer, and last week the control channels for both the legacy analog and the Phase-2 systems rotated to rebanded and other new freqs. For instance, the Puyallup cell analog system went down to 853-something, and the Puyallup cell of the Phase-2 system went from 771-something to 857-something.

Sorry that's such an obtuse statement, but I didn't record the actual freqs, just went hunting with the radios and Pro96Com/Trunk88...and of course I'm down here in Oregon for a few days.

People need to stop relying on the DB here and do some searching on their own, and learn how to use their radios instead of installing all the preprogrammed stuff and expecting others to do the work for them.
 
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Thanks Randy ;)

I figured out the problem others are having with the reply above from "Jeanken". IIRC, this Sentinel program uses the RR database, correct? The issue is that the DB hasn't been updated since the summer, and last week the control channels for both the legacy analog and the Phase-2 systems rotated to rebanded and other new freqs. For instance, the Puyallup cell analog system went down to 853-something, and the Puyallup cell of the Phase-2 system went from 771-something to 857-something.

Sorry that's such an obtuse statement, but I didn't record the actual freqs, just went hunting with the radios and Pro96Com/Trunk88...and of course I'm down here in Oregon for a few days.

People need to stop relying on the DB here and do some searching on their own, and learn how to use their radios instead of installing all the preprogrammed stuff and expecting others to do the work for them.
If you find out what the cc was, please let us know or send RR and update so they can update the database :)
 

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If you find out what the cc was, please let us know or send RR and update so they can update the database :)

Possibly when I get home, but I was trying to make a point/start a conversation with this:

DrWillRobinson said:
People need to stop relying on the DB here and do some searching on their own, and learn how to use their radios instead of installing all the preprogrammed stuff and expecting others to do the work for them.
 

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I will try to make my findings as to why half of the posters lost Puyallup,Sumner and Bonney Lake PD's and the rest of us did not as simple as I can.
If you notice in the R/R database for the PSRS system, there are 3 sites, Tacoma (800), Puyallup (700) and McNeil Island (800), but only the Tacoma Simulcast site lists control channels. I've always thought this was a bit odd, but never the less, I have always loaded ALL THREE sites into my scanners and hear everthing on the system well.
If you only program the control channels for this system listed in the database, one could assume you would only be scanning the Tacoma site.
The above listed 3 Valley PD's (at least for now) seem to be using the Puyallup Simulcast (700) exclusivley, with the last listed frequency (772.131250) in the database as the control channel and are loud and clear on my radios.
I will attempt to submit a change to R/R at least adding the above control channel so it show in red and I will try to pinpoint the McNeil Island Control Channel also and add it so If people do load only the C/C's in the future they actually hear all of the system.
As a side note, I agree completely with Wil that if you want your scanner to work properly, learn the software, load the stuff you want to hear, and enjoy, as opposed to loading a zip code and having the pleasure of hearing Fred on the garbage truck report in right in the middle of your persuit. There are plenty of locals on here (me included) that are willing to help you get setup just for the asking. mac
 

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As I stated above, the valley PD's seem to be using the Puyallup site with control channel 772.131250 about 95% of the time, but I am also seeing Tacoma Fire, Fire-Comm, Lakewood PD, and Tacoma Pd N&S using the Puyallup site with the above listed C/C also quite a bit. mac
 

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I also seem to have the most activity on that site. It almost appears they have abandoned the 800 system for now.
 

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I changed 772.131250 to indicate as a primary control channel in this system. No need to make a submission for that change at this time. However when you have info for the other sites please do submit them so that we can get the database listing updated.
 

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Tacoma 800 TRS

I also seem to have the most activity on that site. It almost appears they have abandoned the 800 system for now.
When I was last in Tacoma (July 2015) the only law or fire agency I received from the 800 system was Bonney Lake. I posted here on RR somewhere that finding.
 

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They may have switched to the SS911 system. I heard Buckley PD doing radio checks with a TG of 40159 this morning. The dispatcher said to make sure all units had their radios switched over.
 
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