PorscheEMB
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I’m sad to say after 30 years of listening to Scottsdale Police they have now had both of their dispatch channels fully encrypted!
Scottsdale Police is Now Encrypted!
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LarryVavrek
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Looks like we can all use these expensive toys To monitor garbage trucks and Public works departments now how exciting.,
PorscheEMB
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Yep my SDS 100, 200, and Unication just all turned into bricks. lol.
It’s only a matter of time before the rest of the Vally’s PD’s go encrypted as well. We should all take bets on who’s next ?
We have -
Phoenix PD
Gilbert PD
Glendale PD
Peoria PD
Apache Junction PD
Avondale PD
MCSO
Chandler PD
I’m sure I missed a few but these PD’s are all still in the clear ( for now at least ). I’ll bet at this time end of this year there will only be a few on this list left in the clear.
We have -
Phoenix PD
Gilbert PD
Glendale PD
Peoria PD
Apache Junction PD
Avondale PD
MCSO
Chandler PD
I’m sure I missed a few but these PD’s are all still in the clear ( for now at least ). I’ll bet at this time end of this year there will only be a few on this list left in the clear.
KB7MIB
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Still clear:
Surprise PD
Tohono O'odham PD (at Desert Diamond West Valley Casino)
Tolleson PD
John
Peoria
Surprise PD
Tohono O'odham PD (at Desert Diamond West Valley Casino)
Tolleson PD
John
Peoria
Guess I'll have to keep an eye on Phoenix/Scottsdale Craigslist for some Arizona boat anchors 
scannerloser
im a loser, baby.
Are there any ways to program the encryption keys for PDs that allow certain people to have them? For instance if you work at a news agency and are allowed to have the keys, do any of the scanners currently allow those keys to be programmed? Sorry if this is a "dumb" question but I don't currently have a newer scanner that can pick up these systems yet, but wondered about the encryption angle...
Thanks!
Thanks!
DeoVindice
P25 Underground
A Unication pager will, but it's in a different category from hobby-oriented scanners.
Hence my answer of no.
First, encryption keys wouldn't be given out, it would compromise the integrity of the encryption. At best, the press could be supplied with a radio with the encryption keys installed. But, since one of our local radio stations was at the root of Phoenix PD encrypting all but their patrol channels, I don't ever see that happening anyways.
scannerloser
im a loser, baby.
Awesome thank you for the reply!
So I'm hearing that one stolen radio requires all keys to be rolled? That's pretty hilarious
Not necessarily. A lost or stolen radio can be locked out remotely by the system administrators. Not sure if keys can be loaded remotely on this system or not though.Awesome thank you for the reply!
So I'm hearing that one stolen radio requires all keys to be rolled? That's pretty hilarious
scannerloser
im a loser, baby.
I'm pretty curious how a local radio station caused the police to encrypt radio traffic - do you happen to have a link to the story about this? Sounds interesting
There was never an article written. Of course, the press isn't going to report on their own stupidity. The Readers Digest version is there was a shooting at an office complex and the shooter was known. He had left the scene before Phoenix PD arrived. Radio gave out the home address of the shooter on the air and when the PD arrived, one of the radio stations was already there waiting for PD's arrival. It was either the next day or the following that encryption was turned on B and C Decks on Simulcast A.
kayn1n32008
ØÆSØ Say it, say 'ENCRYPTION'
A lost or stolen radio can be inhibited(zapped/stunned/bricked), and/or zeroized.Awesome thank you for the reply!
So I'm hearing that one stolen radio requires all keys to be rolled? That's pretty hilarious
While it *shouldn't* be necessary to rekey all the radios, it's easily accomplished with OTAR, after confirmation the stolen radio has been inhibited. Rekeying via OTAR is as simple as a couple of button presses on the subscribers.
Additionally, radios with OTAR capability, will poll the KMF to see if there are new keys upon registration with the radio system. This is assuming the system has OTAR and a KMF active, and subscribers are configured to utilize OTAR, and have a UKEK loaded.
While complex, having an encrypted radio network isn't as difficult as most scanner users think it is. Securely sharing keys is also relatively easy, with out disclosing the key material thanks to the marvel of OTAR and a KMF
918Dave
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The honors go to Tess Rafols from channel 3 & 5.
Cool! But you asked about scanners.Actually there's a fork of sdrtrunk that does exactly what I was asking about
scannerloser
im a loser, baby.
You're totally right, which is why I deleted my reply about 500ms before you replied haha. Have a great Monday!Cool! But you asked about scanners.
