SDS100/SDS200: SDS and Unication technology
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jonwienke
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Make sure they recall my steering wheel while you're at it, as it was hotter than the hottest part of the scanner.
Your steering wheel wasn't self-heated by an internal component, it was heated by the sun...
You expect the inside of a car to be hot on a warm summer day; you don't expect an antenna to be 40° above ambient temperature due to poor design.
I would say something if it was a valid issue, but this is not
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Jason WX4JCW
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seth21w
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Ok lets get back on topic a little bit, the sds 100 we know has an rafael sdr chip as stated by upman. But does anyone know of anything about the decoder in the unication g4/5?
jonwienke
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BS. I've been very consistent that this is not a safety issue, that the real-world risk of someone being burned by a SDS100 is zero, and that claims otherwise are not based on any sort of reality. I cited a worst-case scenario (leaving the scanner running in a hot car for over an hour) in which the hottest part of the scanner still failed to get hot enough and remain hot long enough to become a burn hazard. I did in fact grasp the antenna connector when I returned to my vehicle, and it did not burn me, it quickly cooled to a few degrees above body temperature as the heat in the connector transferred to my hand. And it did so long before there was any chance of causing any kind of burn to anyone, even a child with sensitive skin.
It remains to be seen what long-term effect the heat may have on the scanner components. But claiming the heat from the scanner is an injury risk to the user is provably false scaremongering.
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LOL!!
You misrepresent the cited case. The person was in the car with the scanner running for over an hour, with the air conditioner on and deep tinted windows-the scanner was not in direct sunlight The steering wheel, which was in direct sunlight had heated to a higher temperature, but you compare apples and oranges here. There is a big difference between radiational heating from the sun through a windshield and conductive heating from an electrical component in indirect sunlight, even though both items may be in the same physical vicinity. It was also pointed out by that poster that the condition had never presented with other models in the same situation. For a person that accuses others of strawman arguments, you're pretty good at them yourself.
I sure hope this isn't a professional opinion, because it creates quite a liability for someone who has a financial interest in Uniden's continued success.
jonwienke
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You're the one misrepresenting things. I'm talking about a time (several times, actually) when I left MY scanner running in MY vehicle on a hot day with the vehicle off and the windows rolled up for more than an hour. The A/C was not turned on, because the vehicle was off. When I came back, I grasped the antenna connector, and while it was definitely warm, I did not burn myself or come anywhere near experiencing any kind of injury. The steering wheel was hotter than any part of the scanner.
If that sort of worst-case scenario doesn't cause injury, then no normal usage scenario is going to be a problem. Your continued harping on this subject is amusing, but does not reflect well on your credibility.
BTW, I have some personal experience with burns, and this is the hand I used to temp test the SDS100 antenna connector (video is from several years ago):
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.wienke.5/videos/10152132489737059/?l=5018766514948962453
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Then we are talking about two different cases. I was referring to this one:
https://forums.radioreference.com/uniden-tech-support/374170-sds100-heating-red-hot-red-flag.html
Which you are obviously aware of since you have posted in it.
I did not see the post where you conducted your own experiment, I apologize for the error. Obviously, your meticulous data indicates that the real world risk of a thermal injury from the unit is unquestionably zero. Since you disapprove, I will say no more on the matter.
https://forums.radioreference.com/uniden-tech-support/374170-sds100-heating-red-hot-red-flag.html
Which you are obviously aware of since you have posted in it.
I did not see the post where you conducted your own experiment, I apologize for the error. Obviously, your meticulous data indicates that the real world risk of a thermal injury from the unit is unquestionably zero. Since you disapprove, I will say no more on the matter.
seth21w
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I swear it is like being in a forum with a bunch of babies just be glad im not a moderator.
jonwienke
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I never mentioned the Red Flag incident in this thread. That was an assumption on your part. Just to be totally clear:
I have left my SDS100 running in my vehicle on multiple occasions on hot days, with the windows up and the air conditioning (and the vehicle) turned off.
On most of those occasions, when I returned to the vehicle after an hour or more, I intentionally grasped the hottest parts of the scanner with the hand (shown in the video I linked) with the previous burn injury.
None of those incidents caused any injury to my hand, or even any significant discomfort, even though:
1. My hand is more susceptible to burn injury than normal because it has been seriously burned previously.
2. The scanner had been running in an environment that was hazardously hot for a human for over an hour.
I'm open to constructive suggestions for further real-world testing if anyone thinks my methodology was flawed, and can identify something significant I overlooked in my tests. But I'm pretty sure my test represents a worst-case scenario for potential burn injury to a SDS100 user during anything resembling normal use. And given that no injury occurred, or even came close to occurring, I'm totally comfortable comfortable with the conclusions I've drawn.
That is so irrelevant it is ridiculous. :roll:
Why all the complaints about the generation of heat? You're a whole lot closer to having the waffle maker feature than you thought you'd be! 
Why all the complaints about the generation of heat? You're a whole lot closer to having the waffle maker feature than you thought you'd be!
Exactly, I’m wondering what they are doing wrong to make it hot, you want hot come feel my iphone
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Jason WX4JCW
XPR7550 - SDS100
Actually if you have ever been burned it is not. What is ridiculous is not doing any research about it before posting.
Why all the complaints about the generation of heat? You're a whole lot closer to having the waffle maker feature than you thought you'd be!
LOL. If they want to feel hot then come sit in my vehicle where I live. The interior averages 110-125 degrees during the summer and the seat belt clip is often referred to as a branding iron. Some of you other southerners know what I mean. The SDS100 is not going to burn anyone. Plus, why would anyone want to eat cold waffles. I am very happy with my SDS100 and I know Uniden will keep releasing Firmware updates that improve performance. My x36 Scanners have never worked better after their latest updates last month.
Actually I have been burned. One does not get to be on the job in a busy fire company without being burned once in a while. Explain to me what showing a burned hand has to do with this topic? What research are you referring to that I should have done? Nobody here has suggested that the SDS100 antenna connector would burn to that degree. That is why it is irrelevant. Thanks.
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