sds100 questions

[tdel1]

Those frequencies listed for Will County are conventional P25 and analog. You can program these frequencies from Sentinel.

Your dealing with conventional digital P25 and analog. Remember there are numerous types of digital two radio systems, P25, DMR, NXDN to name a few. There is also analog systems in use. If you see NAC it is likely a conventional P25. If you see DPL, PL it is analog conventional.

There are different radio frequency bands which which are used in various radio systems.

You can use the zip code for your residential area to program your SDS100. Using the Zip code method should help you start receiving local radio traffic.

As you become more familiar with radio systems and programming you can add more favorites list to fine tune your listening.

Another option might be a forum member sending you a file to down load to your SDS100.

Current radio hardware is complicated and inter-wined. There is a significant learning curve.

You can do a search internet searches for explanations of the different types of systems like DMR or NXDN to gain familiarity.

I have already entered my zip but it finds way too much and takes too long to scan, I end up missing a lot.

I do need to figure out what I can program manually and what is better programmed pulling from a DB.

It just seems that what I'm finding on the forums and what I'm trying to do aren't matching up 100% and I'm sure there are various reasons for that.

Thanks.

 

[ProScan]

@ProScan what am I missing with your favorites lookup against RR? What is the best way for me to find the data from the RR site using the pull request from your software?

Thanks.

The procedure is different in ProScan depending on if it's a trunking system or not.

Do you want to import the conv. frequencies on this page

Will County, Illinois (IL) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference

Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference for Will County, Illinois (IL)

www.radioreference.com

or do you want to import the trunking system on this page?

Will County Government IL (P25) Trunking System, Joliet, Illinois

Will County Government IL (P25) Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

 

[VASCAR2]

If you use the Zip code for programming and your getting to much then you can manually hit avoid. Pressing the avoid key once temporarily locks out avoids reception till the radio is turned off. Once the SDS100 is turned back on Temporary Avoids are again in the scan menu. You can permanently avoid frequencies or Talk Groups by quickly pushing avoid twice while your hearing a radio transmission. If you press hold during a transmission you can temp avoid or perm avoid that frequency or TG.

Here are links to the database here on RR.


Link to Will County, Illinois in RR data base

Will County, Illinois (IL) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference

Link to Starcom 21 in RR Database

STARCOM21 Statewide Illinois Trunking System, Statewide, Multi-State

 

[tdel1]

The Database here...in Radio Reference. Look up...top margin...it says Database.

I'm looking for it in ProScan.

I am trying to find the WESCOM - Western Will County Communications Network (Plainfield) in ProScan, which is this page on the RR DB, Will County, Illinois (IL) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference

Thanks.

 

[tdel1]

If you use the Zip code for programming and your getting to much then you can manually hit avoid. Pressing the avoid key once temporarily locks out avoids reception till the radio is turned off. Once the SDS100 is turned back on Temporary Avoids are again in the scan menu. You can permanently avoid frequencies or Talk Groups by quickly pushing avoid twice while your hearing a radio transmission. If you press hold during a transmission you can temp avoid or perm avoid that frequency or TG.

Here are links to the database here on RR.


Link to Will County, Illinois in RR data base

Will County, Illinois (IL) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference

Link to Starcom 21 in RR Database

STARCOM21 Statewide Illinois Trunking System, Statewide, Multi-State

I am familiar with avoid, but there is a lot of avoids under the main list. I'd prefer to not use the full IL DB and just go off of my favorites.

I'd like to make a favorite for police/ems, a favorite for IDOT, a favorite for utilities, etc... then I can toggle those lists on/off as needed.

 

[tdel1]

The procedure is different in ProScan depending on if it's a trunking system or not.

Do you want to import the conv. frequencies on this page

Will County, Illinois (IL) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference

Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference for Will County, Illinois (IL)

www.radioreference.com

or do you want to import the trunking system on this page?

Will County Government IL (P25) Trunking System, Joliet, Illinois

Will County Government IL (P25) Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

Both, but lets try with the first link, this is the section, WESCOM - Western Will County Communications Network (Plainfield).

Thanks.

 

[werinshades]

I'm looking for it in ProScan.

I am trying to find the WESCOM - Western Will County Communications Network (Plainfield) in ProScan, which is this page on the RR DB, Will County, Illinois (IL) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference

Thanks.

I am familiar with avoid, but there is a lot of avoids under the main list. I'd prefer to not use the full IL DB and just go off of my favorites.

I'd like to make a favorite for police/ems, a favorite for IDOT, a favorite for utilities, etc... then I can toggle those lists on/off as needed.

Both, but lets try with the first link, this is the section, WESCOM - Western Will County Communications Network (Plainfield).

Thanks.

Ok...got what you're trying to do, but when you Import a Statewide systems with any of the programming software out there, it will import all the sites, and you'll be starting from the same point where you're at now. I've explained what I do, where I find it and how it looks on my scanners. I can't explain it anymore to you than that. You're not grasping the information being provided out there, the different radio systems, how they're different etc. Good luck..

 

[tdel1]

Ok...got what you're trying to do, but when you Import a Statewide systems with any of the programming software out there, it will import all the sites, and you'll be starting from the same point where you're at now. I've explained what I do, where I find it and how it looks on my scanners. I can't explain it anymore to you than that. You're not grasping the information being provided out there, the different radio systems, how they're different etc. Good luck..

I understand what you are saying, but I don't think you are fully understanding what I'm saying.

I know which lists I'd like to add, but within ProScan I wasn't able to find the specific WESCOM frequencies using the dropdown. I'm trying to avoid adding the entire system, as you've stated, and only add the handful of frequencies.

You have provided good information, but now I'm within the specific ProScan software.

Thanks.

 

[werinshades]

I understand what you are saying, but I don't think you are fully understanding what I'm saying.

I know which lists I'd like to add, but within ProScan I wasn't able to find the specific WESCOM frequencies using the dropdown. I'm trying to avoid adding the entire system, as you've stated, and only add the handful of frequencies.

You have provided good information, but now I'm within the specific ProScan software.

Thanks

Nope, got what you're trying to do and Proscan has many similarities to Sentinel and probably should have mastered first before moving on. Bob is here to help...good luck.

 

[tdel1]

Nope, got what you're trying to do and Proscan has many similarities to Sentinel and probably should have mastered first before moving on. Bob is here to help...good luck.

I agree, but I read trunked systems could be added all or none using Sentinel, from reading this forum, which is why I thought ProScan was needed. I read that ProScan didn't add everything from a trunked system. Based on what I read, I assumed Sentinel couldn't do what I needed it to do. I have no problem admitting a mistake on my end, that's how I learn. To me, Will County and Starcom21 appear to be trunked systems.

I'm not looking for an answer, just sharing how I got to where I am, now.

Thanks.

 

[werinshades]

I agree, but I read trunked systems could be added all or none using Sentinel, from reading this forum, which is why I thought ProScan was needed. I read that ProScan didn't add everything from a trunked system. Based on what I read, I assumed Sentinel couldn't do what I needed it to do. I have no problem admitting a mistake on my end, that's how I learn. To me, Will County and Starcom21 appear to be trunked systems.

I'm not looking for an answer, just sharing how I got to where I am, now.

Thanks.

Did you see this? From the man himself:

 

[tdel1]

Did you see this? From the man himself:

Nope, I will watch that later, thanks.

 

[ProScan]

I read that ProScan didn't add everything from a trunked system.

ProScan will import every item that's checked. Exceptions are encrypted channels if the option is set and control channels only if the option is set.

Both, but lets try with the first link, this is the section, WESCOM - Western Will County Communications Network (Plainfield).

Thanks.

If you have any favorites/systems programmed into the scanner, you may want to read from the scanner to ProScan first so you won't inadvertently wipe out anything in the scanner.

On the conv. frequencies - Will County / Consolidated Dispatch Centers - Subcategory: WESCOM - Western Will County Communications Network (Plainfield)
Select Consolidated Dispatch Centers for the County Systems then after clicking the Get Data Button, uncheck all systems except the WESCOM system like in this image.



On the P25 system, Select Will County (P25) in the County Trunk Systems box then click the Get Data button.

 

[tdel1]

ProScan will import every item that's checked. Exception is encrypted channels if the option is set and control channels only if the option is set.



If you have any favorites/systems programmed into the scanner, you may want to read from the scanner to ProScan first so you won't inadvertently wipe out anything in the scanner.

On the conv. frequencies - Will County / Consolidated Dispatch Centers - Subcategory: WESCOM - Western Will County Communications Network (Plainfield)
Select Consolidated Dispatch Centers for the County Systems then after clicking the Get Data Button, uncheck all systems except the WESCOM system like in this image.

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On the P25 system, Select Will County (P25) in the County Trunk Systems box then click the Get Data button.

Thanks, this helps. I'm not worried about wiping the scanner out, but I have been reading from scanner, first. Everything in the scanner is test data right now, I'm going to come up with the frequencies I want and then build my list in ProScan.

Also, I now see how Consolidated Dispatch Centers within ProScan matches up with the RR DB site, I was scrolled too far down and only saw WESCOM - WESTERN Will County... appear because I used ctrl + f in the browser to filter out Will County and I never even saw the Consolidated Dispatch Centers heading on the web page. It makes perfect sense, now.

Thanks.

 

[tdel1]

@ProScan

I added the WESCOM group, but the scanner isn't scanning anything. I wrote to scanner two times. The list is on. If I turn on starcom21 I can hear transmissions, but nothing if I turn off starcom21 and leave WESCOM on. Am I missing a click/setting somewhere?

Edit- The quick key was set to 'off' I'm not sure why that was set to off, the other lists I built were set to 'on' by default, it seems.
Edit2- The new list I created had all the quick keys checked. That seems to cause the quick key status to off. Seems like I missed that tab when comparing with an already created (working) favorite list.

 

[ProScan]

@ProScan

I added the WESCOM group, but the scanner isn't scanning anything. I wrote to scanner two times. The list is on. If I turn on starcom21 I can hear transmissions, but nothing if I turn off starcom21 and leave WESCOM on. Am I missing a click/setting somewhere?

Edit- The quick key was set to 'off' I'm not sure why that was set to off, the other lists I built were set to 'on' by default, it seems.

During the write option, a window will appear with the option "Turn On All System, Dept., & Site Quick Keys In The Scanner. Ignores the Quick Key Status tabs". That may have been off and the System Quick Key Status tab (next to the Favorites Options tab), the SQK check boxes were not set correctly.

 

[RoninJoliet]

Most of the Will Co VHF frequencys you listed are OLD, Wescom is on tower 1-13 along with D5 and the rest of ISP, here in Joliet I can copy all of that with a rubber duck, you program the three basic frequencies for T1-13 , also you go to the Will Co system here on rr.com , create a P25system using all the frequencys , all the talk groups are listed as is on Starcom all the talk groups for Plainfield and many other towns.As Mentioned Romeoville is part of the Will Co system as is Lincolnway towns and fire departments so you get all them on Will Co,.....It's very important on here to supply the town you live in to get the best help ,.....Hope this helps as I started in the same position your in,....I'm poor with computers so I bought the simple scanners ,

 

[WILLAMNEUMANN]

Does anyone have a HPE fav file they can share with new CPD/CFD 800 system on it along with Will Co system ? I do not know how to program it and would make my life a little easier I am sure someone has to already have it done. The DB from RR does not have it yet.