SDS200 database options?

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As does all Windows programs, Google, Meta, and about 80% of all programs. So use the manual steps I posted.
As stated earlier, blocking updates is a bad practice.

You can't account for the human element. Sooner or later the human makes a mistake. OP made a reference to stuxnet, the human element is how air gapped systems were infected.

Remember Target department store hacks? They made it in through the HVAC system, to the cash register network to install malware.

I doubt anyone is targeting the OP so no worries there. But his proud exclamation that he does everything the hard way is ...
 

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As stated earlier, blocking updates is a bad practice.

You can't account for the human element. Sooner or later the human makes a mistake. OP made a reference to stuxnet, the human element is how air gapped systems were infected.

Remember Target department store hacks? They made it in through the HVAC system, to the cash register network to install malware.

I doubt anyone is targeting the OP so no worries there. But his proud exclamation that he does everything the hard way is ...
It is amazing what the hackers can come up with to get into a network. Using the HVAC system now that is clever.

Roger that on the human element, I did accidentally plug in the Ethernet once on the Windows 10 computer, it was less then a min before I caught it but Windows was already half way through another 20 + GB update.

I would like to have NTP (time service) on the Windows computer so I have a USB to Ethernet adapter on order. If it works then I could add a vlan to my router. If I can get that setup then I would have total control over the unruly Windows computer.
 

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It is amazing what the hackers can come up with to get into a network. Using the HVAC system now that is clever.
That is very clever. They have one job and they often do it too well. Man, I miss the internet circa 1994-95. All I had was a 386 running DOS, a dial-up number to access my college's VAX and a text-based browser. :) No Radio Reference, but there was rec.radio.scanner on Usenet.
 

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You must have some internet 60 seconds and 10GB downloaded.
Ok, maybe I exaggerated a bit but I do have fiber and it's quite fast. Windows did get enough to try and auto update. Don't really need a half baked update messing things up.
 

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I have not run linux in years AND have not tried this, but perhaps you'll find this helpful. I read thru it and looks promising in your case.

 

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I have not run linux in years AND have not tried this, but perhaps you'll find this helpful. I read thru it and looks promising in your case.

That was a good read and I had not heard of Winapps before. That may well be a good option.

Because I already have the Windows 10 computer setup I think I'm going to start with the firewall. Been wanting to learn more on advanced router settings and I already have Opnsense running well. The only thing holding me back is I had an industrial mini pc laying around so I installed Opnsense on it but it only has two Ethernet ports. The vlan that I want to try really should have it's own interface.
 

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That was a good read and I had not heard of Winapps before. That may well be a good option.

Because I already have the Windows 10 computer setup I think I'm going to start with the firewall. Been wanting to learn more on advanced router settings and I already have Opnsense running well. The only thing holding me back is I had an industrial mini pc laying around so I installed Opnsense on it but it only has two Ethernet ports. The vlan that I want to try really should have it's own interface.
Good luck.
 

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I bought an open-box ASUS Windows 11 laptop for about $150 and used the option that allows you to install non-MS apps (switch Windows 11 out of "S Mode"). This is just for my scanners. Databases and favorites lists are very small, so bare bones laptop. No need for huge hard drives or tons of memory. Simple but does the job.

IMHO, adding layers by using multiple boot systems or trying to run on other emulator systems may just add another layer of complexity that could cause more headaches than it is worth. It may also be more difficult to deal with figuring out problems when updates happen...

I went with the cheap-o new laptop from Best Buy. I just felt better than something used off eBay. Just my own preference there.

Database updates are done with USB C to the SDS 200, which ships with the scanner. With the small databases and favorites files, transfer by USB-C is really fast. No real need for Ethernet connection unless you are doing things like broadcasting to a live scan.
 

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I bought an open-box ASUS Windows 11 laptop for about $150 and used the option that allows you to install non-MS apps (switch Windows 11 out of "S Mode"). This is just for my scanners. Databases and favorites lists are very small, so bare bones laptop. No need for huge hard drives or tons of memory. Simple but does the job.

IMHO, adding layers by using multiple boot systems or trying to run on other emulator systems may just add another layer of complexity that could cause more headaches than it is worth. It may also be more difficult to deal with figuring out problems when updates happen...

I went with the cheap-o new laptop from Best Buy. I just felt better than something used off eBay. Just my own preference there.

Database updates are done with USB C to the SDS 200, which ships with the scanner. With the small databases and favorites files, transfer by USB-C is really fast. No real need for Ethernet connection unless you are doing things like broadcasting to a live scan.
Roger that on things getting too complicated. I messed around with the router a lot today and all I seemed to do was break everything and give myself a headache. Windows 10 is driving me nuts on the time setting. I just need it to be within a min or so but no. It keeps resetting to random hours. It does care what time zone I set.

I'm about ready to take a big hammer to it!

Think I will hold off on the SDS200 for now and ponder things a bit.
 

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A USB C was included with your SDS200? I thought they were still shipping with a USB A to Micro USB cable.
Sorry... it ships with the USB A to micro USB. I meant to say I ended up adding a USB C to USB Micro cable and that is what I use most of the time on mine and is an option for anyone that has a laptop that doesn't offer ant old-school USB A ports.
 

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Roger that on things getting too complicated. I messed around with the router a lot today and all I seemed to do was break everything and give myself a headache. Windows 10 is driving me nuts on the time setting. I just need it to be within a min or so but no. It keeps resetting to random hours. It does care what time zone I set.

I'm about ready to take a big hammer to it!

Think I will hold off on the SDS200 for now and ponder things a bit.
My work vehicle has the SDS200. That is what I use my cheap scanner programming laptop for. Absolutely love the 200!!! It performs great in-vehicle.
 

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Sometimes taking a break can help clear the mind. I really want Windows out of my life. Been running Linux for a very long time but I never have tried WINE so I'm thinking it's way past time to give it a go. If I can get Proscan and Sentinel to work well then the SDS200 purchase is on. Will be reviewing the Wiki to see what I can find and learn. This just seems like the best long term solution and I won't have to deal with the unruly Windows updates anymore.
 

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Isn't virtual Windows like Hyper-V and VirtualBox something that you use to not contaminate your main Windows OS? Everything that happens in that virtual Windows stays there and after upgrading database and firmware and after closing that virtual session all malware and viruses are also gone.

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Isn't virtual Windows like Hyper-V and VirtualBox something that you use to not contaminate your main Windows OS? Everything that happens in that virtual Windows stays there and after upgrading database and firmware and after closing that virtual session all malware and viruses are also gone.

/Ubbe
Running an older version of Windows inside a VM on a Windows 11 host is something that could help some that want to run Windows 11 but be able to run older Windows programs that are not compatible with Windows 11. Yes you could kill the session without saving and delete but that take a lot more time to reload and all settings would be lost.

I'm trying to get as far as I can from Windows and I run Fedora workstation as the host and use KVM as the VM.

How I usually run the VMs is first install then when done with the session I save it. Then when I want to use it again I restart the VM. It's like the computer running in the VM was simply put to sleep. When it's restarted it's like it was just woke up and all the tabs, apps Ect are just like you left them. Really is quite amazing!
 
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