SDS200-PRIORITY-NO CHANNEL?

[rbritton1201]

So, I've been trying to turn on one single priority "Channel," which is a single police department's main dispatch channel, programmed under "Channels," which is programmed under a particular "System," within a particular Favorites List.

I have Priority ID Scan turned on within the Favorites List, the System, and the individual channel involved. I've also turned on the Priority Scan option in the menu of the scanner itself, through the front panel's menu selection. I have none of the Favorites Lists or Systems assigned a QUICK KEY.

I keep getting an error message claiming "NO CHANNEL," but "PRIORITY" seems to be turned on everywhere I can find where it should be turned on.

Anybody know what I'm doing wrong?

 

[werinshades]

So, I've been trying to turn on one single priority "Channel," which is a single police department's main dispatch channel, programmed under "Channels," which is programmed under a particular "System," within a particular Favorites List.

I have Priority ID Scan turned on within the Favorites List, the System, and the individual channel involved. I've also turned on the Priority Scan option in the menu of the scanner itself, through the front panel's menu selection. I have none of the Favorites Lists or Systems assigned a QUICK KEY.

I keep getting an error message claiming "NO CHANNEL," but "PRIORITY" seems to be turned on everywhere I can find where it should be turned on.

Anybody know what I'm doing wrong?

It sounds like you have the Conventional Priority also turned on. Function...Decimal Point in quick succession will take you through the options to Priority Off.

 

[n1chu]

What happens when you set it to ID Search?

 

[tvengr]

If you are scanning a P25 trunked system, preemptive priority does not work on the SDS100 or SDS200. It will not switch to a priority talkgroup until the current talkgroup drops out whether the current talkgroup is priority or not.

 

[rbritton1201]

I am scanning a P25 trunked system...after turning the scanner on, within about 2 seconds of turning the scanner on, and seeing it seemingly begin to scan the talk groups in that System, it suddenly displays the error message that says "Priority-No Channel."

If you are scanning a P25 trunked system, preemptive priority does not work on the SDS100 or SDS200. It will not switch to a priority talkgroup until the current talkgroup drops out whether the current talkgroup is priority or not.

 

[werinshades]

If you are scanning a P25 trunked system, preemptive priority does not work on the SDS100 or SDS200. It will not switch to a priority talkgroup until the current talkgroup drops out whether the current talkgroup is priority or not.

The message he's seeing is if Convenient Priority Chanel is turned on and a Conventional system isn't active. It can be overridden too, by either pushing down on the selector knob on the SDS100, or pushing the squelch knob in on the SDS200.

 

[rbritton1201]

It's a Uniden SDS200 scanner...There is a "Conventional" System programmed separately from the P25 System under the Favorites List that has the Channel I want turn on, but I don't have "Priority" activated for any of the channels under the Conventional System that's within the same Favorites List. I only have one channel turned on in programming, and that's under the P25 System within the Favorites List in question.

The message he's seeing is if Convenient Priority Chanel is turned on and a Conventional system isn't active. It can be overridden too, but I'm not sure which scanner is being used so don't want to throw too much out there.

 

[werinshades]

It's a Uniden SDS200 scanner...There is a "Conventional" System programmed separately from the P25 System under the Favorites List that has the Channel I want turn on, but I don't have "Priority" activated for any of the channels under the Conventional System that's within the same Favorites List. I only have one channel turned on in programming, and that's under the P25 System within the Favorites List in question.

Check your Conventional system under the Options tab, you probably have it on DND, that's what the message is. The message will not appear if the Priority ID feature is on or off in a trunking system and you have a talkgroup assigned as a Priority. When the message appears, press in the squelch knob, it'll start scanning.

 

[rbritton1201]

I'll check that, and I know what you mean with respect to the selection DND or Priority Scan. But, I've been programming via the Sentinel program, and I don't see any mention within Sentinel that provides an option for DND or Priority Scan. Within Sentinel, it just shows turning it on and off, and I don't see a selection where I can designate DND or Priority Scan. Just curious, am I missing something with respect to selecting DND or Priority Scan within Sentinel? Or, is the DND or Priority Scan only available to be programmed directly through the radio itself? I plan to check that via a direct input into the scanner, but I'm not in a position right now to check it.

Check your Conventional system under the Options tab, you probably have it on DND, that's what the message is. The message will not appear if the Priority ID feature is on or off in a trunking system and you have a talkgroup assigned as a Priority. When the message appears, press in the squelch knob, it'll start scanning.

 

[rbritton1201]

Sorry, duplicate post...

 

[werinshades]

I'll check that, and I know what you mean with respect to the selection DND or Priority Scan. But, I've been programming via the Sentinel program, and I don't see any mention within Sentinel that provides an option for DND or Priority Scan. Within Sentinel, it just shows turning it on and off, and I don't see a selection where I can designate DND or Priority Scan. Just curious, am I missing something with respect to selecting DND or Priority Scan within Sentinel? Or, is the DND or Priority Scan only available to be programmed directly through the radio itself? I plan to check that via a direct input into the scanner, but I'm not in a position right now to check it.

On the scanner, go into your Menu and you'll see the option for Priority Scan. Keep in mind, this only for Conventional Priority Scan.

It can also be done in Sentinel under Edit..Edit Profile.

 

[rbritton1201]

I checked the Misc. tab under the Edit Profile selection within Sentinel, and it shows that Priority Scan is turned off. So, apparently no conflict between DND versus Priority Scan. But, does Priority Scan need to be turned on there in order for the scanner to Priority Scan if using Sentinel to do the programming?

On the scanner, go into your Menu and you'll see the option for Priority Scan. Keep in mind, this only for Conventional Priority Scan.

It can also be done in Sentinel under Edit..Edit Profile.

 

[werinshades]

I checked the Misc. tab under the Edit Profile selection within Sentinel, and it shows that Priority Scan is turned off. So, apparently no conflict between DND versus Priority Scan. But, does Priority Scan need to be turned on there in order for the scanner to Priority Scan if using Sentinel to do the programming?

How about in the scanner? Do you have more than one profile?

In Sentinel...Edit...Edit Favorite List...System...Channels...scroll to the right under the Pch column, make sure they're all off in your Conventional System.

 

[hiegtx]

I'll check that, and I know what you mean with respect to the selection DND or Priority Scan. But, I've been programming via the Sentinel program, and I don't see any mention within Sentinel that provides an option for DND or Priority Scan. Within Sentinel, it just shows turning it on and off, and I don't see a selection where I can designate DND or Priority Scan. Just curious, am I missing something with respect to selecting DND or Priority Scan within Sentinel? Or, is the DND or Priority Scan only available to be programmed directly through the radio itself? I plan to check that via a direct input into the scanner, but I'm not in a position right now to check it.

Your only Priority tagged channel is on a trunked system. Am I reading that correctly?

If you have a talkgroup programmed as Priority, and have Prioity ID scan enabled on that system, the system will treat your tagged TGID as Priority, regardless of whether you have Conventional Priority enabled, with or without the DND setting. When Conventional Priority is enabled, you will see an icon on the display. The icons for 'Priority', and 'Priority DND' are slightly different, but will show on the display.

Trunked system priority ('Priority ID Scan') is enabled on the specific system. No icon on the display indicates whether you have this turned or off.

 

[werinshades]

Your only Priority tagged channel is on a trunked system. Am I reading that correctly?

If you have a talkgroup programmed as Priority, and have Prioity ID scan enabled on that system, the system will treat your tagged TGID as Priority, regardless of whether you have Conventional Priority enabled, with or without the DND setting. When Conventional Priority is enabled, you will see an icon on the display. The icons for 'Priority', and 'Priority DND' are slightly different, but will show on the display.

Trunked system priority ('Priority ID Scan') is enabled on the specific system. No icon on the display indicates whether you have this turned or off.

When he boots up, the message "Priority-No Channel" indicates the scanner is set to monitor a Priority Channel, but the Conventional system is not enabled. It's a matter of hen pecking through the menus, and the discrepancy will be found. I've done this more than few times over the years.

 

[hiegtx]

When he boots up, the message "Priority-No Channel" indicates the scanner is set to monitor a Priority Channel, but the Conventional system is not enabled. It's a matter of hen pecking through the menus, and the discrepancy will be found. I've done this more than few times over the years.

It could be because 'the system is not enabled'. But it also will come up if no channel is programmed as Conventional Priority, regardless of the system being enabled, or not.

I occasionally get that message if I drop down to only monitor a single list. My primary Favorites list does have a couple of conventional channels set as Priority. But if I turn that list off, and only scan one of the smaller lists, which do not have a tagged Priority, then I will get the error message. I know that the selected list, with all systems enabled, does not have a conventional priority channel set, so I simply clear the message and continue on.

 

[werinshades]

It could be because 'the system is not enabled'. But it also will come up if no channel is programmed as Conventional Priority, regardless of the system being enabled, or not.

I occasionally get that message if I drop down to only monitor a single list. My primary Favorites list does have a couple of conventional channels set as Priority. But if I turn that list off, and only scan one of the smaller lists, which do not have a tagged Priority, then I will get the error message. I know that the selected list, with all systems enabled, does not have a conventional priority channel set, so I simply clear the message and continue on.

Exactly! That's another possibility too, and also have that same scenario happen today and performed the same task. I'm trying to think of all the possibilities, but in the end, a Priority is set up on a Conventional system which is is not enabled and causing the error message. Without knowing his programming, I can only suggest things to check. It will be found..

 

[rbritton1201]

So, just to clarify what you're saying, if I am wanting to make a P25 trunked channel (talk group) a Priority Channel (talk group), it will not prioritize the P25 channel (talk group) I've programmed for priority over other P25 channels (talk groups) I have programmed that are not prioritized unless none of the other P25 talk groups have traffic occurring on them? The particular Favorites List I have programmed in this particular Favorites List is 100% P25 channels (talk groups).

If you are scanning a P25 trunked system, preemptive priority does not work on the SDS100 or SDS200. It will not switch to a priority talkgroup until the current talkgroup drops out whether the current talkgroup is priority or not.

 

[werinshades]

So, just to clarify what you're saying, if I am wanting to make a P25 trunked channel (talk group) a Priority Channel (talk group), it will not prioritize the P25 channel (talk group) I've programmed for priority over other P25 channels (talk groups) I have programmed that are not prioritized unless none of the other P25 talk groups have traffic occurring on them? The particular Favorites List I have programmed in this particular Favorites List is 100% P25 channels (talk groups).

Yes, correct.

 

[rbritton1201]

That's what I thought, and that's too bad because with many departments switching over to trunked systems, it seems like a PRIORITY SCAN feature is kind of useless on these expensive supposed State of the Art and highly expensive radios. Seems like a good Firmware update for Uniden to consider, if they can fix that through firmware.

Yes, correct.