Sentinel Re: Lee County(NC)

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When was the update changed in the database. There is a delay between the DB change and pushed to sentinel.
 
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Any idea as to how to figure out, which is correct?
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What is wrong with listening to both systems to figure out which is in use?

n3obl said:
When was the update changed in the database. There is a delay between the DB change and pushed to sentinel.
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Chris0516 said:
In RR, it says 10/25/2024.
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Ummmm. Unless I am missing something, the Lee County talkgroups in VIPER were updated 10/25/2014 (10 years ago)

270006978DLEECOMLee County CommonMulti-TalkLee County2014-10-25
270016979DLEEEMLee County Emergency ManagementMulti-TalkLee County2014-10-25
27002697aDLEEEMSLee County EMSEMS DispatchLee County2014-10-25
27003697bDLEEEMSADMINLee County EMS AdminEMS-TalkLee County2014-10-25
27004697cDLEEEMSOPSLee County EMS OPSEMS-TacLee County2014-10-25
27005697dDLEEFDADMINLee County FD AdminFire-TalkLee County2014-10-25
27006697eDLEEFDOPSLee County FD OPSFire-TacLee County2014-10-25
27007697fDLEEFIRELee County FDFire DispatchLee County2014-10-25
270086980DLEEMAIDLee County Mutual AidInteropLee County2014-10-25
270096981DLEESOLee County SheriffLaw DispatchLee County2014-10-25
270106982DLEESOADMINLee County Sheriff AdminLaw TalkLee County2014-10-25
270116983DLEESOCIDLee County Sheriff CIDLaw TacLee County2014-10-25
270126984DLEESONARCLee County Sheriff NARCLaw TacLee County2014-10-25
270136985DLEESOOPSLee County Sheriff OPSLaw TacLee County2014-10-25
270146986DLEETACLee County TACMulti-TacLee County2014-10-25
270156987DLEETAC2Lee County TAC 2Multi-TacLee County2014-10-25
270166988DLEETAC3Lee County TAC 3Multi-TacLee County2014-10-25
270176989DLEETAC4Lee County TAC 4Multi-TacLee County2014-10-25
27018698aDLEETAC5Lee County TAC 5Multi-TacLee County2014-10-25
27019698bDLEETAC6Lee County TAC 6Multi-TacLee County2014-10-25
27020698cDLEETAC7Lee County TAC 7Multi-TacLee County2014-10-25
27021698dDLEETAC8Lee County TAC 8Multi-TacLee County2014-10-25
270316997DSANFRDPDADMSanford PD AdminLaw TalkLee County2014-10-25
270326998DSANFRDPDCIDSanford PD CIDLaw TacLee County2014-10-25
270336999DSANFRDPDDISPSanford PD DispatchLaw DispatchLee County2014-10-25
27034699aDSANFRDPDOPSSanford PD OPSLaw TacLee County2014-10-25
27035699bDSANFRDPDSOPSSanford PD Special OPSLaw TacLee County2014-10-25
 
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RMason said:
Ummmm. Unless I am missing something, the Lee County talkgroups in VIPER were updated 10/25/2014 (10 years ago)

270006978DLEECOMLee County CommonMulti-TalkLee County2014-10-25
270016979DLEEEMLee County Emergency ManagementMulti-TalkLee County2014-10-25
27002697aDLEEEMSLee County EMSEMS DispatchLee County2014-10-25
27003697bDLEEEMSADMINLee County EMS AdminEMS-TalkLee County2014-10-25
27004697cDLEEEMSOPSLee County EMS OPSEMS-TacLee County2014-10-25
27005697dDLEEFDADMINLee County FD AdminFire-TalkLee County2014-10-25
27006697eDLEEFDOPSLee County FD OPSFire-TacLee County2014-10-25
27007697fDLEEFIRELee County FDFire DispatchLee County2014-10-25
270086980DLEEMAIDLee County Mutual AidInteropLee County2014-10-25
270096981DLEESOLee County SheriffLaw DispatchLee County2014-10-25
270106982DLEESOADMINLee County Sheriff AdminLaw TalkLee County2014-10-25
270116983DLEESOCIDLee County Sheriff CIDLaw TacLee County2014-10-25
270126984DLEESONARCLee County Sheriff NARCLaw TacLee County2014-10-25
270136985DLEESOOPSLee County Sheriff OPSLaw TacLee County2014-10-25
270146986DLEETACLee County TACMulti-TacLee County2014-10-25
270156987DLEETAC2Lee County TAC 2Multi-TacLee County2014-10-25
270166988DLEETAC3Lee County TAC 3Multi-TacLee County2014-10-25
270176989DLEETAC4Lee County TAC 4Multi-TacLee County2014-10-25
27018698aDLEETAC5Lee County TAC 5Multi-TacLee County2014-10-25
27019698bDLEETAC6Lee County TAC 6Multi-TacLee County2014-10-25
27020698cDLEETAC7Lee County TAC 7Multi-TacLee County2014-10-25
27021698dDLEETAC8Lee County TAC 8Multi-TacLee County2014-10-25
270316997DSANFRDPDADMSanford PD AdminLaw TalkLee County2014-10-25
270326998DSANFRDPDCIDSanford PD CIDLaw TacLee County2014-10-25
270336999DSANFRDPDDISPSanford PD DispatchLaw DispatchLee County2014-10-25
27034699aDSANFRDPDOPSSanford PD OPSLaw TacLee County2014-10-25
27035699bDSANFRDPDSOPSSanford PD Special OPSLaw TacLee County2014-10-25
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VIPER, where Lee County is concerned seems to be woefully out of date.

If you go by RR/Browse/North Carolina/Lee County. This is the page that comes up: Lee County. That is dated 6/7/2020

If you go by the NC state Wiki, they are listed as: "VHF/UHF conventional. EMS and Fire are patched to the NXDN system... law enforcement may be as well, but this has not yet been confirmed. EMS has also been confirmed to be patched to VIPER"

If you go by Sentinel, it still has the NXDN towers listed from the 6/7/2020 page

The latest update on VIPER is 10/25/2024, but. The date on the sole tower in Lee County on VIPER, is dated 9/23/2020

Then there is this from just a few months ago.
 
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What you see in sentinel is going to be exactly what you see in the database, and what is in the database only gets updated if scanner listeners submit updated information. The NXDN system, even if no longer used (not saying that it necessarily is though), will appear in sentinel indefinitely until the system is confirmed to be decommissioned and an update is submitted to have the system removed (deprecated) from the DB. Do be aware that just because a DB page or site has not been updated in a while does not mean the data is necessarily inaccurate as systems/sites can operate for years with minimal to no changes.

Your best bet is to listen to both the NXDN system and VIPER to see which is currently being used. The last time I was over there (years ago), Lee county had conventional traffic patched to the NXDN system. I distinctly recall hearing Lee County EMS on NXDN, but I cannot remember what, if any, VIPER usage I noted at the time.

The article you linked seems to indicate that, at the time the article was written, Lee County was using a system other than VIPER that was unsatisfactory. I found a thread from 2022 that stated they were still using a mix of NXDN and conventional at that time. It sounds like they have been considering a switch to VIPER, so that could be in the works or have already happened. Again, the best thing to do would be listen for yourself or ask in the NC subforum.
 
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IcomIcR20 said:
What you see in sentinel is going to be exactly what you see in the database, and what is in the database only gets updated if scanner listeners submit updated information. The NXDN system, even if no longer used (not saying that it necessarily is though), will appear in sentinel indefinitely until the system is confirmed to be decommissioned and an update is submitted to have the system removed (deprecated) from the DB. Do be aware that just because a DB page or site has not been updated in a while does not mean the data is necessarily inaccurate as systems/sites can operate for years with minimal to no changes.
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IcomIcR20 said:
Your best bet is to listen to both the NXDN system and VIPER to see which is currently being used. The last time I was over there (years ago), Lee county had conventional traffic patched to the NXDN system. I distinctly recall hearing Lee County EMS on NXDN, but I cannot remember what, if any, VIPER usage I noted at the time.
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I now put the VIPER listing on my SDS100. I put the VIPER and, NXDN, on my 436HP.
IcomIcR20 said:
The article you linked seems to indicate that, at the time the article was written, Lee County was using a system other than VIPER that was unsatisfactory. I found a thread from 2022 that stated they were still using a mix of NXDN and conventional at that time. It sounds like they have been considering a switch to VIPER, so that could be in the works or have already happened. Again, the best thing to do would be listen for yourself or ask in the NC subforum.
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I didn't see the thread, but. That is a moot point. I knew they had been using a combo of NXDN Digital and, Conventional, for several years. As pointed out on the NC Wiki page link I provided. Which, in fact, is why I had activated the NXDN on my 436HP in 2022. When I received it as a Christmas present. I will ask in the NC subforum.
 
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Chris0516 said:
I thought about that, but. Since RR data is based on user inpute(or so I thought), and Sentinel is crucial for updating both HPDB, and Firmware.
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Use Proscan for FL updates, you already have an RR premium sub. No need to wait for the next weekly DB update as you would with Sentinel. Selectivity is far superior to that of Sentinel IMHO as well. I only keep Sentinel around for the occasional fw update & non-programming settings changes
 
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I originally asked this question, over in the Uniden forum, since. It involves Sentinel, the RR database and, Lee County, yet. It was suggested I ask in this forum. The included link, is to the thread in the Uniden forum, which includes a link to news story two months ago.
 
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They should have suggested that you have that thread moved here, instead of asking again.

I took care of it for you.
 
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