SENTINEL

[dallascowboys]

Hi Everyone,
I either missed something or I have a bigger problem than I think, here is what I am trying to do, in Sentinel I am trying to put the Latitude and the Longitude into my Departments but when I click out of Sentinel and go back in the latitude and longitude goes back to what the factory set it before I received my BCD436HP. My question is how do I save my latitude and longitude in Sentinel ? I have read all the info I have watched all videos and still can not save what am I doing wrong or do I have a bigger problem on hand with my scanner?
Thanks

 

[phask]

Do you mean in a favorite list?

Can you post a pic/example? Might be formatting issue.

 

[dallascowboys]

Sentinel

Yes in my favorites list, what I am trying to do is what K4DPS did on you tube which is titled Location Based Scanning without a GPS connected, yes it is for the BCD536HP but I thought the 536 and the 436 are just about the same or am I wrong ?

 

[phask]

Why not use the lat/lon already in Sentinel?

 

[dallascowboys]

Sentinel

Good Evening,
I could use what is already in Sentinel but from what I understand from watching K4DPS is that this is a good thing to do because when you are out driving with your scanner and no GPS the closer that you get to the setting of latitude, longitude and the range that you put in the clearer that the channel you have set up will come in.

 

[W8RMH]

Good Evening,
I could use what is already in Sentinel but from what I understand from watching K4DPS is that this is a good thing to do because when you are out driving with your scanner and no GPS the closer that you get to the setting of latitude, longitude and the range that you put in the clearer that the channel you have set up will come in.

The GPS function only enables/disables the channel it does not effect reception.

 

[marksmith]

Good Evening,
I could use what is already in Sentinel but from what I understand from watching K4DPS is that this is a good thing to do because when you are out driving with your scanner and no GPS the closer that you get to the setting of latitude, longitude and the range that you put in the clearer that the channel you have set up will come in.

Not sure what you watched, but it is incorrect to think that the gps aids or hinders reception. Signals come in clearer the closer you get to the site that is broadcasting. No gps settings or location settings in favorites lists make clearer transmissions.

The only thing you can do with location control and gps enabled is turn a system on or off at different locations depending on your location coordinates and range (and your location). But you could receive them without the gps if they come in with the gps.

Mark
WS1095/536/436/996P2/HP1e/HP2e/996XT/325P2/396XT/PRO668/PSR800/PRO652

 

[dallascowboys]

Sentinel

Good Morning everyone
I watched the video that K4DPS has on you tube on Location based scanning without a GPS connected, I understand that the GPS has nothing to do with this what I want to know is how do you save latitude and longitude in Sentinel again when I go to Sentinel and put in latitude and longitude than go out of Sentinel than go back into Sentinel the latitude and longitude that I put in is not there, what is there is what was put in before I received the scanner from Scanner Master. The reason why I want to do this is to see how well it works and to learn everything I can about Sentinel and what the scanner can do, you could say it is a learning experience for me. Thank you all for all your feedback on this subject.

 

[phask]

Are you putting it in for your location? edit-profile - location.

Or for a dept in a fl - ?
If in a FL - make sure that location is enable in the 1st place.

Either is really straight forward. If in a FL - I'd start with one and edit it. Actually you would have to - unless doing it from scratch. That way you can see the format.

as I said before - unless there is an error in the DB - no advantage in the 1st place to edit a dept. If in the profile, vey little difference between zipcode and lat/lon.

Watching the video you mentioned - what he said is CRAP IMHO.

If you are doing it in the scanner and not via sentinel - good luck

Good Morning everyone
I watched the video that K4DPS has on you tube on Location based scanning without a GPS connected, I understand that the GPS has nothing to do with this what I want to know is how do you save latitude and longitude in Sentinel again when I go to Sentinel and put in latitude and longitude than go out of Sentinel than go back into Sentinel the latitude and longitude that I put in is not there, what is there is what was put in before I received the scanner from Scanner Master. The reason why I want to do this is to see how well it works and to learn everything I can about Sentinel and what the scanner can do, you could say it is a learning experience for me. Thank you all for all your feedback on this subject.

 

[sparklehorse]

Why not use the lat/lon already in Sentinel?

Actually, it's a really good idea to at least verify that the location info in the RR database is accurate for the systems you want to monitor while mobile. The RR database is often horribly inaccurate, to the point of being useless in some cases. The RR location data depends on user input, so it all depends on how much effort has been put into defining location data for a given agency. Sometimes it's very good, but you CAN NOT depend on it. It's one reason I'm not a big fan of the Home Patrol style of scanning the full database using a zip code or coordinates. That method is only as accurate as the database. One thing you can do, but it is time consuming, is to use Freescan as a tool to evaluate the location data for the systems you want to monitor while mobile. Freescan has a great mapping tool that shows the location circle defined in the RR database, and updates the circle if you change the center coordinates, or the range. Once you've got it dialed the way you want, you can enter your revised location info in your Favorites List in Sentinel. It sucks that Sentinel does not include a mapping tool like this, but at least it is available in Freescan. See this thread for more info on this topic, including some map images:

http://forums.radioreference.com/uniden-tech-support/325613-sentinel-location-setting.html

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[marksmith]

You can't change the coordinates or range of a system in the main database. You have to put the system in a favorites first and then you can change all you want.

You can't change anything else in the main database either so far as I know. If you can, it will get blown away by your next update.

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[marksmith]

Actually, it's a really good idea to at least verify that the location info in the RR database is accurate for the systems you want to monitor while mobile. The RR database is often horribly inaccurate, to the point of being useless in some cases. The RR location data depends on user input, so it all depends on how much effort has been put into defining location data for a given agency. Sometimes it's very good, but you CAN NOT depend on it. It's one reason I'm not a big fan of the Home Patrol style of scanning the full database using a zip code or coordinates. That method is only as accurate as the database. One thing you can do, but it is time consuming, is to use Freescan as a tool to evaluate the location data for the systems you want to monitor while mobile. Freescan has a great mapping tool that shows the location circle defined in the RR database, and updates the circle if you change the center coordinates, or the range. Once you've got it dialed the way you want, you can enter your revised location info in your Favorites List in Sentinel. It sucks that Sentinel does not include a mapping tool like this, but at least it is available in Freescan. See this thread for more info on this topic, including some map images:

http://forums.radioreference.com/uniden-tech-support/325613-sentinel-location-setting.html

.

The Freescan coordinates mapping tool is very good. Using it, I find that the systems in RR are frequently understated in terms of their range, or favor one side of the true range and not the full range.

Some of the statewide ranges in RR are for the whole state, when in reality the usage of the frequency is just in a corner of the state.

These things make scanning the main database with gps inefficient (in some cases its scanning stuff you will never hear based on your location) or less optimal (the coordinates and range in RR won't activate receivable systems because of understated/mis-stated database coordinates or range.

After moving all the stuff I listen to in a 3 state area to several favorites lists, I modified their coordinates and ranges based on known reception ranges, and using Freescan to check and adjust the coordinates. Generally the coordinates are not bad, but I needed to modify ranges to activate in known receivable areas.

If I am mobile outside this 3 state range where I am not familiar with the systems, I go ahead and use the main database, but not where I spend most of my time.

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[dallascowboys]

Sentinel

Thanks everyone for the replies I figured I would just stay the way it was and not change anything, my quote is why change something if it is not broke, thanks again.