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looking for service manuals for the fallowing
Pro 97
Pro 2055
Pro 2096

if u have a PDF copy please let me know
 

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Brian doesn't need your pdf's to service his own scanners but he will archive them in a yahoo group. Service Manuals have copyright protection, which you can share (not sell) with others individually, but it is illegal to publish them for general use without the express permission of the copyright owner. Brian intends to do just that, publish the Service Manuals without Radio Shacks express permission.
 

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your right i dont need them to service my scanners i need them for my budy to service my radios (i dont do the fixing thing myself)

if it was copyrighted woudnt it have the copyright info on a page saying you cant give this out with out radio shacks PERMISSION??
 
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From page 1 of the Service Manual
Copyright RadioShack Corporation
All Rights Reserved.

Owners Manuals are published by Radio Shack for public download, Service Manuals are not.
wouldnt that go for the owners manuals also

The point is, you intend to publish the Service Manuals. How do I know, because you did it with the Pro-96 Service Manual which I sent to you two weeks ago, making me a part of your violation.
your right i dont need them to service my scanners i need them for my budy to service my radios (i dont do the fixing thing myself)
 

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FCVPI99 said:
well i guess then when my site is up -- dont go?

Or better yet, don't put the service manual that Frank set you on your site. Seems to be the easiest route.
 

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first off you sent it to me and you never said dont give it out. if you did do that it would be cool it wouldnt have ever gone up

it says radio shack corp all right reserved i saw that myself as do the owners manuals

it never says anything about permission

are you scared the more people that have it the more mod for the radio we may have?

its a service manual why would anyone want a sevice manual mmmm let me think
 

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Does RS give them away for free?

If not, then by posting them online you are taking money away from them. They would not like that too much.


Also see....

All rights reserved was a formal notice that all rights granted under existing copyright law (ie. the right to publish a work within a specific area) are retained by the copyright holder and that legal action may be taken against infringement.
 
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Grog said:
Does RS give them away for free?

If not, then by posting them online you are taking money away from them. They would not like that too much.

No, they don't give them away free. They also won't sell them to anyone anymore for the recent units. So, no revenue is lost. Damages would be very hard to prove.

Joe M.
 

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Voyager said:
No, they don't give them away free. They also won't sell them to anyone anymore for the recent units. So, no revenue is lost. Damages would be very hard to prove.

Joe M.

However, unlike the Owners Manual, Radio Shack has never posted any Service Manual for download. Sure appears to be copyright maintenance for the Service Manual but no concern for the Owners Manual.

I recall several months ago that one of your well known moderators in the Yahoo Pro-96 group removed portions of the Service Manual from the files section, reason...copyright. Has anything changed? No. It wasn't available for purchase then either. Then you Joe, sent me a private message and ask me to send you a copy. Did you publish it...not to my knowledge and I didn't ask you not to. (the bold is for Brian)

A well known Admin on this board also ask for a copy. I didn't ask him not to publish it either. Has he...not to my knowledge. (again, the bold is for Brian)

Brian chose to go straight to your Yahoo Pro-96 group and started publishing the Service Manual just as I sent it to him, in the first of three zips. I then sent him a PM and ask him to remove it because of the copyright. He did remove it, then stated the following in your group (using his words) "Sorry to all but had to pull the file due to a small hissy fit from the person i got it from seems hit didnt want to share that nice DPF with all who own a pro 96"

A day later, Brian sent me an email with a hyper link only. to his brand new Yahoo group. Guess what, the only thing that group is for is to archive the pirated Pro-96 Service Manual. However, in this feed, it appears he is trying to get others to contribute to his ambitions.
 

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FCVPI99 said:
first off you sent it to me and you never said dont give it out. if you did do that it would be cool it wouldnt have ever gone up

En creditable, you removed it from Yahoo Pro-96 group as I requested, then started your own Yahoo group and loaded it back up.
 

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well you can bold are you want

plus hey guess what i have a service manual for a pro 94 and pro 2035 so who gana go talk to them in bold?

(Brian chose to go straight to your Yahoo Pro-96 group and started publishing the Service Manual just as I sent it to him, in the first of three zips. I then sent him a PM and ask him to remove it because of the copyright. He did remove it, then stated the following in your group (using his words) "Sorry to all but had to pull the file due to a small hissy fit from the person i got it from seems hit didnt want to share that nice DPF with all who own a pro 96")

why is it your Makein it sound like as i got each file from you i posted it?????

i got them from you and a week later i posted it cuz someone needed it

plus radio shack doesnt even sell a service manual for the pro 96 so lets go this one how did u get something that isnt sold??????

and i took them down cuz u said u were gana go to the owner of the group and have him pull it
 
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FCVPI99 said:
plus your like the only one with a problem about this
everyone else i know loves it
Of course they do, you're posting something that RS never intended to be widely available to the public, espically for free.

Why are you so hesitant to take the Service Manual down?

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your right i dont need them to service my scanners i need them for my budy to service my radios (i dont do the fixing thing myself)
If this is the case, why do they need to be posted in a public forum. Your buddy doesn't have e-mail?
 

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Maybe a review at this link may be in order regarding copyright. http://www.whatiscopyright.org/ Notice particularly under What is a Copyright this statement:
Copyright laws grant the creator the exclusive right to reproduce, prepare derivative works, distribute, perform and display the work publicly. Exclusive means only the creator of such work, not anybody who has access to it and decides to grab it
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Brian, you "decided to grab it", thus are in conflict with this copyright standard because you have distributed the work publicly. The creator--Radio Shack--did not grant you this exclusive right. Also note that the copyright has not expired under the [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]When does Copyright Protection end, or expire paragraph.[/font][/font]However, my gift to you of this material is private and does not parley to this scrutiny. Somehow, you've got to see the difference.
 

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did u have exclusive right when you gave it out??????

ok so after i pull it what are you gana do with your time -- by the way are have you asked if mods DK has the right to post service manuals
i know the have the 94 and 2135
 
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