Shoreline WA.

plexus · Dec 19, 2002

I follow all King county , but live in Shoreline
and listen mostly to this area. Are there any
other Shoreline people out there ?
This is a funny area , because SPD shares ID's
with other KCPD talk groups , same with Fire !
I would like to hear from other scanners in the
area !

RyansPI · Jan 29, 2003

Shoreline

Hi there. I'm Ryan and I live in Seattle as well. Infact, we're practicly neighbors. lol. I only live about 10 minutes from Shoreline. I'm right off Aurora across the street from Oak Tree and BurgerMaster. I have some friends I visit everyone in a while over there. Maybe you've seen me drive around the area. I drive a police package '99 red Ford Crown Victoria. It's an ex police car, but still looks like it's in service with the antennas.

I have two scanners right now. A radio-shack PR0-90 handheld with trunking. The other is a Uniden Bearcat 700A mobile scanner that is non-trunking.

I bought it used for $100 from a CB shop in Lynnwood. The handheld one was bought new.

Billvert1 · Feb 11, 2003

Hello to the other two scanner enthusiast in the Seattle area.
My name is Bill I moved to Bellevue about 5 months ago. I have a couple of friends who live in Shoreline.
I have been using a Yaesu VX5 to monitor the local PD,Fire Etc. for a while now but just bought a RS Pro-95 trunking scanner. I have programmed in:

City of Seattle (simulcast)
King county (simulcast)
EPSCA (simulcast)
Mars, LERN, Firecom, Itac and various other mutual aid frequencies.

If either one of you would like to exchange Info, frequencies or Talkgroup Id numbers that would be great.

P.S I will keep my eyes open for the Red Crown Victoria With an antenna farm on top. My local Fire deptment FD#3 in Bellevue has one still in service, along with I believe a Bronco or Suburban.

Good scanning,

Bill, N6ZEU

plexus · Feb 12, 2003

Hi Bill !!

Greetings fellow scanner , I have a Pro - 94 that works great .I Don't know much about the "95" except I tried to program one for someone and it got the best of me ! Must be the "Old Dog" thing .
Any way , Shoreline Fire shares talk groups with East side Fire and Shoreline Police are King County Sheriffs that we rent , and they also share talk groups at times with other North King County Sheriff units . I think State Patrol might be the only agency in King County that is not trunked !? There is a lot of action around the Sound, so you will have plenty of stuff to monitor(south County is really busy!) as far as lists of talk groups and freq's. this web site seems to be right on top of it all , so you should be in good shape . Happy scanning and get a wall wart for your "95" if it eats "AA" s like my "94" you will save a bundle !! Later Bruce ............

Billvert1 · Feb 12, 2003

Hi Bruce,

You are right programming these Pro-95 can be a bear. I struggled with the keypad about a week before I got the software and cable. Now programming it is a pleasure. I bought a Pro-92 about 2 weeks ago I didn't know there were two revisions
of the original flawed firmware. The one I bought at RS was a Demo and apparently a few years old. No matter what I did to improve the signal the thing just would not hold an ID. I later found out through numerous posts that this was an inherent problem with the early 92's. I returned it after two days looking to get a new rev, they didn't have any in stock so I got a refund.
while I was looking for a Pro-93 or 94 I decided to look on EBAY I saw a couple of Pro-95's going for about $180.00. I thought I would take a chance and bid what I payed for the 92. low and behold I got a 95 for less than I payed for the 92. I really like this unit it tracks very well. I know what you mean about the programming the 93/95's are different from the 92/94's. The two thing I miss about the 92 are PL decode and LTR tracking.
I listen to eastside fire (22384) all the time I will keep an ear open for the shoreline engine company numbers. I also have all the KCPD Dispatches in my scan list and some of there Tacs. I wonder if you monitor MARS? I just started keeping it in my priority channel I have heard some great pursuits on it at night. I am going to guess shoreline is on KCPD North (23152) or possibly North West (23344) I will listen out for them.

Good scanning Bruce

-- OH !! , By the way I have a wall wart and a set of NImh's, my first set of akalines lasted 3 days

RyansPI · Feb 12, 2003

Hi Bill!

Welcome to the club! I have a couple frequinces for the Seattle fire department as well as around 30-40 for state patol, including their aircraft. If you want any, let me know.

Bill, can I get a frequincy or two for Seattle PD and King County Sheriff? Thank.

PS: Here are a pics of the car so you know what to look for.

http://users.superford.org/oeward/11-23-02/11PB230002sm.jpg
http://users.superford.org/oeward/11-23-02/38PB230027sm.jpg

Billvert1 · Feb 12, 2003

Ryan and the forum

Nice Car, Is that a modified K-40 on the trunk lip mount?

Here are some of my favorite SPD Talkgroup Id's:

851.1875 CITY OF SEATTLE (COLUMBIA SIMULCAST) (CW ID CHANNEL :24 & :54)
851.4125 CITY OF SEATTLE (COLUMBIA SIMULCAST) (SECONDARY CONTROL CHANNEL)
851.9375 CITY OF SEATTLE (COLUMBIA SIMULCAST)
852.6875 CITY OF SEATTLE (COLUMBIA SIMULCAST)
852.9125 CITY OF SEATTLE (COLUMBIA SIMULCAST)
853.4375 CITY OF SEATTLE (COLUMBIA SIMULCAST)
854.1875 CITY OF SEATTLE (COLUMBIA SIMULCAST)
854.3625 CITY OF SEATTLE (COLUMBIA SIMULCAST)
866.2875 CITY OF SEATTLE (COLUMBIA SIMULCAST)
866.3125 CITY OF SEATTLE (COLUMBIA SIMULCAST) (DIGITAL - RARE USE)
866.3375 CITY OF SEATTLE (COLUMBIA SIMULCAST)
866.4375 CITY OF SEATTLE (COLUMBIA SIMULCAST)
866.6875 CITY OF SEATTLE (COLUMBIA SIMULCAST) (OVERFLOW)
866.7125 CITY OF SEATTLE (COLUMBIA SIMULCAST) - UNVERIFIED
866.7375 CITY OF SEATTLE (COLUMBIA SIMULCAST) (DIGITAL - RARE USE)
866.8875 CITY OF SEATTLE (COLUMBIA SIMULCAST)
867.2875 CITY OF SEATTLE (COLUMBIA SIMULCAST)
867.7625 CITY OF SEATTLE (COLUMBIA SIMULCAST) (OVERFLOW)
867.7875 CITY OF SEATTLE (COLUMBIA SIMULCAST)
868.175 CITY OF SEATTLE (COLUMBIA SIMULCAST) (CONTROL CHANNEL)
868.475 CITY OF SEATTLE (COLUMBIA SIMULCAST)
868.675 CITY OF SEATTLE (COLUMBIA SIMULCAST)
868.875 CITY OF SEATTLE (COLUMBIA SIMULCAST)

and Now the Id's (courtesy of Intercept northwest)

3248 SPD West
3280 SPD North
3312 SPD South
3344 SPD East
3408 SPD Data
3440 SPD Tac 1
3472 SPD Tac 2
3504 SPD Tac 3
3536 SPD Tac 4
3568 SPD Event 1
3600 SPD Emergency
3632 SPD East Tac
3664 SPD South Tac
3696 SPD North Tac
3728 SPD West Tac
3760 SPD Inv Tac 1
3792 SPD Inv Tac 2
3824 SPD Ctr 1
3856 SPD Ctr 2
3888 SPD Cmd 1
3920 SPD Cmd 2
3952 SPD Cmd 3
3984 SPD Cmd 4
4016 SPD Cmd 5
4048 SPD Cmd 6 Harbor Ptrl
4080 SPD Narc 1
4112 SPD Narc 2
4144 SPD Narc 3
4176 SPD NTF
4208 SPD Vice 1
4240 SPD Vice 2
4272 SPD CIS 1
4304 SPD CIS 2
4336 SPD Emer Rsp Team 1
4368 SPD Emer Rsp Team 2
4400 SPD Hostage Neg 1
4432 SPD Hostage Neg 2

Hope these work out for you, I am doing some searching now if I find anythin interesting I will post it.

RyansPI · Feb 12, 2003

Bill,

Thanks for both the car and the codes. The antenna is neither a K-40 or a lip mount. It's made by a cpmpany called TRAM. It looks just like the MaxRad antenna. The antenna is an NMO(?) mount. There is a screw under the antenna on the fender that holds it in and the antenna just screws on the the fender screw. The scew on the fender was already there when I got the car. This is what the antenna looks like:
http://www.maxrad.com/cgi/maxrad_products_ind.cgi?10196

Can those codes you listed work with non-trunking scanners? I want to use them for my BC 700A which is not trunking.

Also, one last thing, the ID's you listed, are those the only numbers you need to put in the scanner? Like this one: 3280 SPD North. Is there any other numbers that need to be used with those numbers?

As you can see, I'm kind of new with scanners.

Thanks again for your help.

If you or anyone else on the forum wants the codes for the FD and WSP, let me know and I'll post them.

Billvert1 · Feb 13, 2003

Ryan,

These codes will only work with your trunking scanner. I have the frequencies entered in my VX5R In just conventional mode it will listen to all the frequencies and talkgroups but just like your non trunking mobile it will not follow a conversation. On your Pro-90 just program in all the frequencies in one bank by themselves. make sure the bank is set for Motorola type I or II. turn off the delay for all frequencies. you may or may not have to lock out the control channels on your scanner. press scan the scanner should read the codes by itself. If you don't have the manual for that scanner I know where you can download a PDF file of it.

Good on the antenna I have used the nmo mount before it is a nice design. the car probably had a larsen or motorola antenna on it before.

good luck with the programming.

RyansPI · Feb 18, 2003

Bill,

Thank you for your help. Luckly I still have manual for the trunking. I'll have to read through it and set it up for Motorola Type I or II. Thanks again.

KC7PSX · Mar 6, 2003

'Lo!

Howdy Plexus, Bill, Ryan!

I'm the FOURTH scanner user in Seattle

Currently running a DX-160, BC785D, PRO-2052 (in mothballs) and too many computers to list

I'm in South Seattle, Rainier Valley, a VERY lonely place for a radio enthusiast, so most ppl know me as the sole GoldWing rider in the area *smirk*

We're up around 130 & 99 all the time, my ex lives up there and my son attends Shorline CC

I had to learn scanners pretty much all by my lonesome (just like on computers in the early 80s) *ah, another siren* but now of course we have resources like this and other xlnt websites... pity RadioShack didn't keep a list of URLs for scanner stuff on their in-store computer kiosk, they'd sell a lot more radios

Anywho, After like 8 years of on-and-off scanning and analog radio tuning (you guys all remember dials and pointers, yes?

) in Seattle I noticed that while SPD, KCPD, Shoreline and etc may use the same =designators= (1-Union-3 f'r instance) they are most definitely NOT sharing TG numbers except for MARS and of course Guardian 1 and 2

Took Seattle like 5 years too - to settle down into a consistent use of their radios - when they first trunked you'd find signals all over the place... or maybe that was my radio

And it would seem they rely on the MDT a whole lot less lately...

So, anybody figger out =exactly= what TG 59920 is? It wakes up like some kind of EOC-MARS channel, like once a week or so with a lot of testing chatter but no real IDs just NAMES of ppl

weird

Oh, and anyone hear CHP or distant WSP cars in the low 30s? I would reckon you'd need a decent antenna for that kinda stuff, but I read about it all the time, 7-meter skip and stuff

*sigh*

We have notoriuosly lousy reception here, because of all the steel in our buildings' structure.

but enuff whining, again, cheeriest Greetings and Salutations from the 2nd-busiest precinct in the Sound!!

Billvert1 · Mar 8, 2003

Hello Mike and the group,
Good to hear from the "fourth" scanner listener in seattle. I thought as the 3rd I had killed the hobby and the Post on this thread

I looked on all my TG list and could not find your 59920 anywhere must be something clandestine. It is divisable by 16 so I assume it is valid talk group. I will put it in my scan list tonight and see if I can't hear something. I see you listen to MARS I have heard some good stuff on mars lately a couple of early morning Warrant arrests and of course the usual multi jurisdiction stolen car chases. I like yourself am self taught and a begginer to Trunked scanning. I have only had my Pro-95 about 4 weeks now.

There is a lot of good info around the net, but you probably already know that. Intercept Northwest is my favorite site for local frequencies. Cityfreq is also pretty good for finding unknown stations.

You mentioned Interference from your building. I live in Bellevue near Crossroads I seem to be in an overlap area of two of the transmitters. I presume I am hearing both the Columbia site and the north site. It causes phase noise but I am getting used to it.

well. I hope to hear more from you all on thi s or other washington threads... anyone listen to the Port of Seattle I have it programmed in but have not listened to it much.

Good Scanning, Bill N6ZEU

plexus · Mar 9, 2003

TG - 59920 ??

Hello Bill , Ryan & forum member # 4 (KC7PSX ) ... 59920 drew a blank for me , there are some training tg's that sound like some hot action going down , but if you listen long enough it becomes apparent it's too much action for this area .
The shared TG's that are crosslinked between trunked and non- trunked for inter-agency communication like you said such as Mars ( 62896 ) Learn ( 62864 ) and another one to a lesser degree Epsca ( 62800 ) are very interesting , there are some others too I can't remember right now but Mars is used more I think for the Fly-Guys and to link Sno - Com & WSP. Here is my Hot list for The Shoreline area !!

Shoreline - 23344 , 23347 , Tac 5 - 23376

Shoreline shares the rest of this list at times .
North King County - 23152 , Tac 2 - 23184
Metro ( transit ) - 23952 , 23955
Data ( warrants ) - 23472
------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Other local TG's
KCPD S.E. - 23216 , Tac3 - 23248
KCPD S.W. - 23280 , Tac4 - 23312
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Shoreline Fire shares with East side

Fire Disp. - 22224
Fire Tac's - 22195 , 22192 , 22160 , 22128 , 22384 , 22352 ,

Oh , by the way I would think the area around Rainier Valley would have some of the best action for the King County Boys !!
Any way ...... our group of four or more !?! is the BEST on this site , Right ???

Later ................. Bruce

Billvert1 · Mar 9, 2003

Hello Bruce, Mike, Ryans PI and the group:

The 59920 frequency could be training but bruce said that the traffic he hears is mostly just names. The hospitals have a common channel that they call roll on daily that is read offf a list. The EOC and other emergency nets also have Periodic (daily or weekly) radio checks and are silent the rest of the time.

On training, I got fooled big time by the Bellevue FD once, I heard " Mayday Mayday !! we have a roof collapse and 3 men trapped with top and side exposure to fire." I thought it was the real deal until I noticed that the voices all seemed a little young and inexperienced. I know that our FD has an explorer program that work with them and I think sometimes participates in there training excercises. This was on one of the eastside fire training pool frequencies.

I also find there is some pretty interesting stuff goin on on the Metro PD channels (23951, 23984).

does anyone ever hear anything on these freqs:

153.830 Statewide fire mutual aid

155.370 LERN

155.475 NLEC

156.135 OSCCR on scene coordination usually WSP to KCPD

I-Call I-Tac
867.5375 State OPS 1
867.5625 2
867.5875 3

I see your a ham Bruce I usually monitor the 146.820 PL 103.5 System K7LED I am also on Echolink (n6zeu-L).

Good Scanning, Bill - N6ZEU

plexus · Mar 9, 2003

Hi Bill

Sorry Bill , I didn't mean to give the impression that I had any FCC paper !! I was referring to Mike ? aka #4 (KC7PSX ). Actually I would love to have a class whatever license it takes for Ham ! I almost bought a Ham set at a flea market once, but I was quite sure that Black Helicopters would swoop down on me if I plugged it in with out the proper papers!!! I did hear that the Government has made it a bit more simple to take the necessary tests , I suppose one still has to read a multitude of manuals to prep. For the exam ( s ) !
Here is one that's kind of fun TG 23568 it seems to be king County narcotics Detectives, I think this is one I hear late ( early am. ) They just seem to follow people around and take lots of notes !

Later Bruce .........................

aps · Mar 9, 2003

Yet another Shorline 'area' scanner

Hi all.

I'm in the Woodinville area and purchased a Pro-95 on Friday. I could never get my Pro-92 to work trunking.

I'm currently trying to figure out the good talk groups and what EPSCA is and all that....

aps.

Billvert1 · Mar 9, 2003

Welcome to the group aps,

Sorry about the mix up in the names Bruce. Now is a great time to get your Ham ticket if you want to. The morse code requirement ha been dropped and the written can be passed with about a week of study. There are plenty of sites on the net that have theentire question pool on them.

TG 23568 (narcs) I show that as KCPD Tac-8

I have heard these surveilance activities on the SPD channels quite a bit. Ther is a 5 man unit that tails people around Pioneer Square and Pike place almost every day. the monitor drug sales and even know the Perps by name.

Aps EPSCA covers Bellevue, Redmond, Bothell, Mercer, Kirkland, and Issaquah.

The Eastside Fire and rescue District also dispatches from there.

I also have a Pro-95 to program the EPSCA you only half to enter the two control frequencies.

Epsca:

868.775 Primary control
868.200 Secondary

KCPD:
868.425
867.8625

City of seattle (Columbia Tower):
868.175
851.4125

Good Scanning, Bill - N6ZEU

Wilrobnson · Mar 9, 2003

>>does anyone ever hear anything on these freqs:
153.830 Statewide fire mutual aid
155.370 LERN
155.475 NLEC
156.135 OSCCR on scene coordination usually WSP to KCPD
I-Call I-Tac
867.5375 State OPS 1
867.5625 2
867.5875 3
>>

153.830
There is a city fire dept that sometimes dispatches inspectors on this one, but it's used alot in Eastern WA for mutual aid purposes.

155.370
Law Enforcement Radio Network- Lots of C/C in rural areas, especially along the peninsula and in Pierce/Thurston counties.

155.475
Nationwide Law Enforcement Channel
Used a lot of time for coordination between feds and VHF-high capable agencies (example: Secret Service uses it to coordiante motorcades with the State Patrol). Some chat here as well, it used to be a fave pick for certain Sno county narcs...

156.135
Onscene Command and Coordination Radio (channel)
A lot of times, WSP will use this for chatting late at night, also it was another fave with certain narcs awhile back...

Brett

Ask away...

KC7PSX · Mar 11, 2003

Ah, yeah, I had forgotten about CityFreq

My little "ID Tracker" freeware logging s/w for the 785 has logged some 7 hits now on TG 59920 - auto-recording (gawd these new rigs are FUN

has shown only some kinda voice ID thing, confiming reception across the network

Weird, completely undoc'ed

Oh, and yes, getting a Tech license is right up there with falling off of logs and breathing, not real difficult

I memorized the entire 600-question pool in like 3 days (some 20 years of radio hobbyist experience helped

)

SPD South/SW (Rainier Valley among others) is REAL busy, but man, NUTHIN' like KCPD SW division

I didn't have a decent scanner (but DID have my 404

during the '96 snowstorm, and my handheld scanner was in storage during the last 'quake...

I can't wait to hear EOC and such wake up in the next "nuisance" (the ones that bug ppl but no one gets hurt) natural disaster

Here's hoping we can get 59920 figgered out!!

KC7PSX · Mar 11, 2003

Re: TG - 59920 ??

yeah, you can tell it's a training excercise when you hear about a 5-story bldg on fire and it ain't on the news *smirk*

Indeed, Bruce, this Rainier Valley is a busy spot, especially at nite. I'm temporarily (!) disabled and waited for over a year before the 785D came out - I shoulda bought a 780 or 95 sooner

hey, THIS board is neat, you can scroll up and down along the thread AS you post -kewl !

Someone mentioned "phase noise" That would explain a funny effect I get only at night

For all the world it SEEMS like my radio slews off-frequency, the voices sound fuzzier - but another, distant tower would explain it, coming in better at night

Thanx for the responses folks, this seems like THE place to be for Seattle scannerists... (geez, we need a better nickname for the hobby

)

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