Single Frequency Capacity Plus Systems

[CanesFan95]

Yes, I have CC & VC instances of FMP24 and DSDPlus running with 2 dongles (for a total of 4 DOS screens, plus all the other screens). Here's a screenshot of everything where it happened again.

 

[natedawg1604]

Yes, I have CC & VC instances of FMP24 and DSDPlus running with 2 dongles (for a total of 4 DOS screens, plus all the other screens). Here's a screenshot of everything where it happened again.

Hmm, can you post the frequency & network file entries for the system as well? Also, try running the CC version of DSD+ with -v4 and save the terminal log to a file, here's an example:

DSDPlus -rc -i20001 -Pmp3 -I1440 -v4 -T -E -e -O NUL > "C:\Users\Nate\Desktop\DSD Logs\terminal_logCC_2016_05_30-PM-1.log"

Then, copy & paste a small excerpt of the terminal log, that might also help. I'm thinking the Network and Site Nos. are supposed to appear at the bottom of both the CC & VC event logs, not 100% sure though.

 

[adcockfred]

Home boy do like slicer said use your vc window to surf. also fire up the spectrum analyzer and search 450 460 & 490 when things are busy. if you are not getting audio cut off then you are probably only looking for one more freq. go the fcc route and check all the registered freqs. too. when you get that number to light up in dsd like you did 462.3 remember just because the number is published doesn't mean they are using it.

 

[slicerwizard]

I have a recording now off the CC instance of DSDPlus during another time this same problem happened, but it's a big 10 Mb .wav file and I don't know where to post it.

ZippyShare, mega.nz - some place like those...

 

[CanesFan95]

Okay, here's the recording:

Zippyshare.com - CC-DSDPlus-Raw-Input_2016-06-05@190413.wav

Let me work on the -v4 thing a little later as well.

 

[slicerwizard]

Ok, I think I see the problem. It was hard to see buried in ~25 posts.

You're running a DSD+ trunk following setup on a single channel Cap+ system with appropriate entries in the DSD+ data files - .networks, .frequencies, etc.; when both timeslots are carrying voice traffic, the CC DSD+ channel display shows S1 and S2 (timeslot 1 and 2); when that happens, VC DSD+ doesn't follow voice traffic. Is that accurate?

As to why, well, when both timeslots are carrying voice, the rest channel goes away. Instead of messages like BS DATA DCC=1 CSBK Cap+ RestCh=2 ActiveCh:TG=2:25, the console log is full of stuff like:

+DMR slot1 BS VOICE
+DMR slot2 BS DATA DCC=1 TLC ECC/RAS GC End TG=25 RID=2190

If DSD+'s trunking logic is working off of those rest channel messages, no messages = no trunking. Sounds like the coders have some tweaking to do.

 

[CanesFan95]

Ok, I think I see the problem. It was hard to see buried in ~25 posts.

You're running a DSD+ trunk following setup on a single channel Cap+ system with appropriate entries in the DSD+ data files - .networks, .frequencies, etc.; when both timeslots are carrying voice traffic, the CC DSD+ channel display shows S1 and S2 (timeslot 1 and 2); when that happens, VC DSD+ doesn't follow voice traffic. Is that accurate?

Yes, exactly.

Well, here's my entry in the DSDPlus.frequencies file:

Cap+, 9999, 0, 1, 462.30000, 462.30000, 0
Cap+, 9999, 0, 2, 462.30000, 462.30000, 0

And here's what's in the DSDPlus.networks file:

Cap+, 9999, "Allcomm Wireless (Critical Intervention Services)"

It never shows a site ID in the bottom of the Event Log for this frequency, and I thought Cap+ don't have a network or system ID? I have searched extensively with a tapped scanner, and never found any other frequencies for this system. I honestly think it's a 1-frequency system because it's never tried to bump the rest channel to anything other than 1/2. The only weird thing is that this frequency is part of a 3-frequency setup that are multicasting the same talkgroups (462.3000 + 452.6125 + 463.3125). Each frequency is its own separate 1-frequency Cap+ system. And each frequency is a 1/2 channel.

So, who are the programmers for this software? Are they on this forum?

Here's a log file of another instance of the problem with -v4. It should be toward the end of the file when it happened:

Zippyshare.com - CC.log

 

[natedawg1604]

Yes, exactly.

Well, here's my entry in the DSDPlus.frequencies file:

Cap+, 9999, 0, 1, 462.30000, 462.30000, 0
Cap+, 9999, 0, 2, 462.30000, 462.30000, 0

And here's what's in the DSDPlus.networks file:

Cap+, 9999, "Allcomm Wireless (Critical Intervention Services)"

It never shows a site ID in the bottom of the Event Log for this frequency, and I thought Cap+ don't have a network or system ID? I have searched extensively with a tapped scanner, and never found any other frequencies for this system. I honestly think it's a 1-frequency system because it's never tried to bump the rest channel to anything other than 1/2. The only weird thing is that this frequency is part of a 3-frequency setup that are multicasting the same talkgroups (462.3000 + 452.6125 + 463.3125). Each frequency is its own separate 1-frequency Cap+ system. And each frequency is a 1/2 channel.

So, who are the programmers for this software? Are they on this forum?

Here's a log file of another instance of the problem with -v4. It should be toward the end of the file when it happened:

Zippyshare.com - CC.log

With non-linked Cap+ systems, I believe you have to insert a dummy site# of 1 for the entries in your frequency file, in order for rest-channel following to work properly. Recently I was having major problems getting rest channel following to work on a single site (non-linked) Cap+ system. Originally I put "0" for the site # in the freq file entries. As soon as I inserted a 1, it worked perfectly.

 

[slicerwizard]

Well, here's my entry in the DSDPlus.frequencies file:

Cap+, 9999, 0, 1, 462.30000, 462.30000, 0
Cap+, 9999, 0, 2, 462.30000, 462.30000, 0

Your event log window shows "Cap+ Site 9999-1", so I'd use 1 for the site number, not zero.

I honestly think it's a 1-frequency system because it's never tried to bump the rest channel to anything other than 1/2. The only weird thing is that this frequency is part of a 3-frequency setup that are multicasting the same talkgroups (462.3000 + 452.6125 + 463.3125). Each frequency is its own separate 1-frequency Cap+ system. And each frequency is a 1/2 channel.

Yep, sounds a lot like IP Site Connect.

So, who are the programmers for this software? Are they on this forum?

Uh, look for forum member "DSDPlus"...

 

[CanesFan95]

I went ahead and took your advice and changed it to Site 1 in the DSDPlus.frequencies file:

Cap+, 9999, 1, 1, 462.30000, 462.30000, 0
Cap+, 9999, 1, 2, 462.30000, 462.30000, 0

I also added it as a site in the DSDPlus.sites file:

Cap+, 9999, 1, "CIS"

But it's still doing the same thing. Same problem. S1 and S2. And now it no longer shows the frequency 462.3, but I can still hear audio (sometimes). When I click to hold on a talk group, it doesn't make it bold and I get audio from other talk groups like its not really holding. The audio comes from the left or right computer speaker instead of both, and pressing the spacebar doesn't remove the hold.

The only other issue I can think of is that since day 1since I started using DSD+, I've always had poor audio decode despite a strong signal and entering the -2.0 ppm offset that my dongles seem to need. I've tried dongles, several tapped scanners, different antennas, DSDTune, and different gain settings. For some odd reason, I can never get good consistent clear audio decode. I always get the occasional R2D2 effect every once in a while. I'm wondering if poor decode would cause this problem.