Snohomish County P25 system active

[dachs494]

This morning, I have noticed what I'm sure is the new Snohomish County P25 (East Simulcast site?) active on 853.925. Minimal activity, with the exception of a couple of affiliations to TGID 43 and rapid control channel rotation. The primary control channel is oddly reporting as 852.9125, but the actual CC data is on 853.925. My guess is due to the system being very early on and nowhere close to being properly configured yet.

Also, SNO911 board meetings suggest that system will not be fully operational until early 2025.

Activity Summary - Decoder25 Phase 1 Simulcast (LSM)

Network
WACN:BEE00[781824] SYSTEM:3AA[938] NAC:3A8[936] LRA:00[0]

Current Site
SYSTEM:3AA[938] NAC:3A8[936] RFSS:01[1] SITE:08[8] LRA:00[0] STATUS:
PRI CONTROL CHANNEL:0-305 DOWNLINK:852912500 UPLINK:807912500
SEC CONTROL CHANNEL:0-313 DOWNLINK:852962500 UPLINK:807962500
SEC CONTROL CHANNEL:0-377 DOWNLINK:853362500 UPLINK:808362500
SEC CONTROL CHANNEL:0-381 DOWNLINK:853387500 UPLINK:808387500
STATION ID/LICENSE:

Neighbor Sites
UNKNOWN
Frequency Bands
BAND:0 FDMA BASE:851006250 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:6250 TRANSMIT OFFSET:-45000000
BAND:1 FDMA BASE:762006250 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:6250 TRANSMIT OFFSET:30000000
BAND:2 TDMA BASE:851012500 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:12500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:-45000000 TIMESLOTS:2
BAND:3 TDMA BASE:762006250 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:12500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:30000000 TIMESLOTS:2
BAND:4 FDMA BASE:935012500 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:12500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:-39000000
BAND:5 TDMA BASE:935012500 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:12500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:-39000000 TIMESLOTS:2
BAND:14 TDMA BASE:450000000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:12500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:5000000 TIMESLOTS:2
BAND:15 FDMA BASE:450000000 BANDWIDTH:12500 SPACING:12500 TRANSMIT OFFSET:5000000

 

[devicelab]

And it's already gone.

 

[dachs494]

And it's already gone.

I am still receiving 853.925 CC fine from my location. I noticed that throughout the day, the signal would suddenly become much stronger, just as strong as the Smartzone CC on 853.750, which I imagine is when all of the East Simulcast towers were carrying the P25 traffic. It is quite a bit weaker than 853.750 right now, though.

Probably will not see any voice traffic for a while, as on the Smartzone system, they still have 853.925 configured as an analog voice channel. Seems to be common that someone keys up on the Smartzone system and it steps on the P25 CC, creating a lot of interference.
However, I did log two talkgroups today (38 and 43) with quite a few affiliations to both. I will keep an eye out for West Simulcast.

 

[devicelab]

I am still receiving 853.925 CC fine from my location. I noticed that throughout the day, the signal would suddenly become much stronger, just as strong as the Smartzone CC on 853.750, which I imagine is when all of the East Simulcast towers were carrying the P25 traffic. It is quite a bit weaker than 853.750 right now, though.

Probably will not see any voice traffic for a while, as on the Smartzone system, they still have 853.925 configured as an analog voice channel. Seems to be common that someone keys up on the Smartzone system and it steps on the P25 CC, creating a lot of interference.
However, I did log two talkgroups today (38 and 43) with quite a few affiliations to both. I will keep an eye out for West Simulcast.

Okay my bad. I'm seeing a very weak signal there. I have the SDR preamp cranked up to its maximum too. Ah well. 853.75 and the other Type II CCs are coming in just fine.

 

[dachs494]

Update: I believe the system was active for a short time this morning, but now I can no longer find it. I can't tell you the exact time it was deactivated, but I think it was on for around 24hrs. I'll give this thread a rest unless there's some major update.

 

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Radio Replacement Project Schedule

Functional Testing in August
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Cutover in January 2025

 

[dachs494]

Radio Replacement Project Schedule

Functional Testing in August
Coverage Testing in September
Cutover in January 2025

Thanks for the info. I briefly read over this in the SNO911 board meeting packet yesterday.

Also, West Simulcast for the new P25 system was active the other day, with the CC rotating between 854.5625 and 854.0125. Site 7 and NAC 3A7.

 

[TVTubeScanner]

Thanks for the info. I briefly read over this in the SNO911 board meeting packet yesterday.

Also, West Simulcast for the new P25 system was active the other day, with the CC rotating between 854.5625 and 854.0125. Site 7 and NAC 3A7.

There is table listing all the system sites & frequencies in the February 2022 Board Meeting Packet on page 143. It looks like the system will be split in to North & South Simulcasts.

 

[dachs494]

South Simulcast is active this morning on 854.5625. Hearing "testing 123" on TGID 91.

 

[devicelab]

South Simulcast is active this morning on 854.5625. Hearing "testing 123" on TGID 91.

2024/09/17 11:17:23 Current site: 1.7
2024/09/17 11:17:28 Current network: BEE00.3AA
2024/09/17 11:17:33 Current site: BEE00.3AA-1.7
2024/09/17 11:17:41 BEE00.3AA-1.7 neighbor: Site BEE00.3AA-1.12; CC=0-597

NAC: 3A7

 

[kd7jfv]

I received a submission to add this system. Its needs a lot of information. Its a starting point for now...

Snohomish County 911(SNOCOM 911) Trunking System, Snohomish County, Washington

Snohomish County 911(SNOCOM 911) Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

 

[devicelab]

Some more info for you:

Network: BEE00.3AA


  Bandplan #0:   Base=851.00625   Offset=-45     Spacing=6.25  BW=12.5
  Bandplan #1:   Base=762.00625   Offset=+30     Spacing=6.25  BW=12.5
  Bandplan #2:   Base=851.0125    Offset=-45     Spacing=12.5  BW=12.5  Slots=2
  Bandplan #3:   Base=762.00625   Offset=+30     Spacing=12.5  BW=12.5  Slots=2
  Bandplan #4:   Base=935.0125    Offset=-39     Spacing=12.5  BW=12.5
  Bandplan #5:   Base=935.0125    Offset=-39     Spacing=12.5  BW=12.5  Slots=2
  Bandplan #14:  Base=450.        Offset=+5      Spacing=12.5  BW=12.5  Slots=2
  Bandplan #15:  Base=450.        Offset=+5      Spacing=12.5  BW=12.5




    Site: 1.7    NAC=3A7


    Neighbor: BEE00.3AA-1.12


    Channel 2-116:    851.7375-1            VOICE
    Channel 2-117:    851.7375-2            VOICE
    Channel 0-455:    853.85           SCC
    Channel 0-481:    854.0125         SCC
    Channel 0-513:    854.2125         SCC
    Channel 0-569:    854.5625     CC




    Site: 1.12


    Channel 0-597:    854.7375     CC

 

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The cutover to the new radio system is scheduled for April 8 at 8 AM.

 

[FFSOD7189]

The cutover to the new radio system is scheduled for April 8 at 8 AM.

LOL, nope

 

[TVTubeScanner]

Yes, it appears that the transition to the new system has been delayed, and I am unaware of a new date for the cutover.