edisonfire
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Just heard Somerset County doing radio check with Warren County on TG 109 (Inter-county Hotline) I wasn't aware that Warren County was on any sort of TKD system. Perhaps a patch?
Somerset County Trunked to Warren County
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More likely a subscriber Warren has on Somerset's system. That's quite common. Sussex County and Pike County both have subscribers on Orange County's system...similar inter-county talkgroup known as Quad State.
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I believe he is talking about Inter- County Comm’s. So now we have Union, Morris, Hunterdon and now Warren County. I do not recall hearing Middlesex, but maybe.
Warren County likely into Somerset TRS via internet or remote base.
I have this programmed into everything and it works well. Not to busy and everyone answers when called. The RID Warren County is using is 16080.
Warren County likely into Somerset TRS via internet or remote base.
I have this programmed into everything and it works well. Not to busy and everyone answers when called. The RID Warren County is using is 16080.
| 109 | 06d | D | IC Hotline | Inter-County Hotline | Emergency Ops |
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FT752
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Middlesex is going to Somerset, so you will not be seeing them on the hotline. They will either get added to Region 4 with Dunellen, Green Brook, Bound Brook, and South Bound Brook, or assigned the outstanding regions of 9, 11, or 12.
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We were talking Counties on IO Hotline. Not municipalities.
| 109 | 06d | D | IC Hotline | Inter-County Hotline | Emergency Ops |
FT752
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There's no Middlesex County 9-1-1 center, so none of them qualify for IC access. Having the Sheriff Central serves no purpose for a single county agency. But perhaps the municipality of Middlesex gets a loophole for being the closest county nexus.
richee2000
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Interesting. I am curious as to why Middlesex Boro is leaving the Middlesex county system, Full E with a site right in their town, and going to Somerset County system? Plans to retain E status? or not?
FT752
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Richee,
No intel on how communications will be conducted or the maintenance/loss of E at this time. Only that it will be under Somerset County and will be a full-scale move encompassing police, fire, EMS, and I'd take OEM too as part of the package.
X9009X
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Middlesex Boro Dispatch is moving to Somerset Dispatch. All operations will remain on Msex County TRS.
richee2000
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FT752
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Last time I checked, one county cannot peer into another county's system. If Middlesex Boro wanted to continue to be dispatched on the MXC TRS, they'd have to find another in-county agency to do that. Nixes that idea. Second, the idea behind moving to Somerset County was originally for the police department only to allow interop with their neighboring Somerset municipalities, and their in-county neighbor, Dunellen. It just so happened the idea caught on and it was a municipal-wide move. But at no point was MXC TRS remaining in the picture so long as Somerset was involved as the dispatch facility. That starts getting into NJICS territory.
richee2000
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we have been hearing a few different things about how this is going to pan out, last info we got (FD) was that out Dispatch TG (on the msex county TRS)will be patched into more than likely somersets fire region 3. we would continue to operate exactly as we do currently, calling in service/on location/ and command traffic on our current dispatch TG, only difference is we would be talking to County instead of our PD headquarters then switch to our Ops 1 TG (msex county TRS) for all of our operations. Middlesex county has no vested interest in who we are actually talking to be it our local PD or Somerset county as long as we continue to actually use the system. can this all change absolutely, we as the fire dept don’t really care who is dispatching us but wanted to stay on the msex county TRS as it offers us full coverage in town and out whether in our county or somerset. as for PD i’m still not sure what the plan is for them whether they are just going to PD region 4 or will have their TG (on msex TRS) patches into PD region 4, either way i don’t see them keeping their E.
Another issue we (FD/EMS/OEM) have is we are currently dispatched on our msex county TRS TGs, (along with our old VHF channels multicasting) Somerset doesn’t tone out over P25 currently so we would have to more than likely move back to VHF dispatching. unless a lot more is known by ppl who made decisions without discussing it with the ppl affected by it there’s a lot of unknowns for a deal that was already signed
Another issue we (FD/EMS/OEM) have is we are currently dispatched on our msex county TRS TGs, (along with our old VHF channels multicasting) Somerset doesn’t tone out over P25 currently so we would have to more than likely move back to VHF dispatching. unless a lot more is known by ppl who made decisions without discussing it with the ppl affected by it there’s a lot of unknowns for a deal that was already signed
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Mentioned before (BOLO) and I will mention again. The Boro FD will want a good plan B for the times the Somerset TRS is unusable due to DTV CH19 tropo. Top right this page, search, this forum then TV19. TV19 in Portmouth Va, Amsterdam, NY (Albany) and Worchester MA.
richee2000
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Wow, I've never seen so much contradictory information for a plan that is already in progress... We still don't have a solid answer on whether Middlesex borough services will be actually going to the Somerset county TRS, or staying on the Middlesex TRS and being dispatched by Somerset county. (Mostly the PD and the E status is still a mystery)
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mdsxfire
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i know for sure we won’t be going to the somerset 500 systems as 95% of our radios are single band 700/800 and no one is shelling out money for all new radios
mdsxfire
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most of what ive heard lately for FD is our msex county TG will be patched into region 3 so we can maintain our coverage that has been tried and tested for 3 years and our current operating procedure
FT752
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It's going to be interesting to see your radios patched into Region 3, but then have to go back to the single APX on the truck for everything else Somerset.
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Yes I understand. The reason Region 3 on Somerset TRS is of interest is primarily interoperability. However that may not be possible at times due to System interference. Common in the summer. Peak green lines are the times this happened last summer.
Fire and EMS are regulated only to the 500 MHZ cell. LEO can use both 700/500 which is a plus. Preplan plan B perhaps?
Who remembers Atlantic City back in the day with tropo, “Hello all units Wide Awake Wide Awake”.😂 Was it 154.205?
mdsxfire
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so would county be receiving us even with a hardline patch through the uhf and be subject to the tropo on their end? i guess yes since our 700 TG would have to go through that system to get to region 3.
therefore our actual operations would be fine since still on the msex TRS but communication with county would be hampered
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