State Police! White bubble!

[fourthhorseman]

Cowboy is "just curious," I hope.

ok,just to see what teh opinion is,,

the law states,you Do Not have Any reasonable expectation of privacy when in your vehicle,or right to privacy concerning items in plain view,,this is the theory LE exercises during every single traffic stop.

right?

So,,why would you feel like your breaking gthe rules by taking a gander at teh contents of a state owned vehicle?
tax dollars = Public Property.

i understand a police officers territorial issues over looking into HIS interceptor,But,,do EMTs get yappy n complain,what about fire apparatus? firefighters dont get mad unless your interfering with their call,,

im sorry to be the one to say this,,but there are many police officers that deem too many things that bother them as doorways to fudge teh prob cause line,,

i looked into a philly PD patrol car,,to see waht kind of rugged notebook they had,,window was up,car was parked on a city street,in a crosswalk no less.
a patrol officer comes out of a liquor store,starts chastising me about tampering with city property.
i smiled,asked for his badge number,he got more angry,demanded my ID,
i asked what the reasonable susp. was,the prob cause,,a whizzing contest ensued,2 more patrol units pull up,they start the routine,,

after about 35 minutes,and a solid 20 of me asking for a supervisor,and never showing my ID,a SGT finally arrives,,
asks me what my issue was,i explained,he shook his head,spoke to the patrolman,came back to me,asked for my id,i again declined,and stated if your office has cause,then take me in front of a judge and we can let a court sort teh issue out.the eyes rolled,as if knowing the law is absurd..
i also kindly asked if the SGT could just view the liquor stores tape,,he did,,

after seeing i did nothing wrong,it was the bad attitude of the patrolman,i was given an apology from the sgt,
i later filed an official complaint,its still pending.and ill never get the hour and 20 minutes back that teh philly PD wasted,,as well as any crime that occured while they invested the time to deal with me,,the super villain,,,lol,,

none of us should ever feel insecure for just being curious,the thirst for knowledge is not a crime.especially when its your and my tax dollars in question.

i hope i didnt offend anyone,,

 

[Moto_Jedi]

ok,just to see what teh opinion is,,,

i hope i didnt offend anyone,,

Not offended here, but your KIA attitude rubs me the wrong way...

 

[SCPD]

Attitude is the key. Often a situation like this poster has related can be diffused before is deteriorates. If he had replied in a friendly manner, smiled, and said he was a radio hobbyist that likes to see what type of equipment is used in public service vehicles the conversation would most likely have evolved differently. Asking for an officer's badge number right away did not help as it took things to an advanced level without trying some other intervening steps first. If the officer was still impolite after the radio hobbyist opening I would have apologized, restated my intention, and told him to have a nice day. The post conveyed a chip on the shoulder, I'm going to prove mine is bigger than yours type of attitude.

I have walked up to many public service employees and explained that I'm a ham radio hobbyist and interested in the radios their agency are currently using. I ask if it would be OK to look inside the vehicle or take a look at the handheld. I do so after assessing the situation that employee is in. I've never been treated impolitely in these cases even when the request is declined.

Also, realize that police officers face a lot during the day. They can't always be polite every moment. This officer may have handled a domestic disturbance involving significant injury/death to a spouse or child just before this. It isn't easy to see this stuff all the time and be pleasant and objective all the time. This isn't an excuse for the officer, just try to put it in perspective. We ask these people to take and see crap, while dealing with the worst of the worst people most of the time. In spite of that the performance of law enforcement officers that I've observed during my life has been outstanding.

Also, there may have been a good reason the officer was parked in the cross walk. The call or reason the officer was in the business to begin with isn't clear.

Now the thread has been completely hijacked. What does this have to do with the observation of an antenna on a New Mexico State Police vehicle? I would rather hear the experiences of some folks in New Mexico, which for many reasons is a very interesting state.