Does anyone know if 45.88 is still in use?
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It is in upstate.
Yes, it's still in use in many areas. The primary usage of LFIRE4D in NYS has historically been for inter-county communication, in particular county 911 centers talking to each other via base stations to coordinate mutual aid. Fire coordinators in some areas of the state have also had it programmed into their low band mobiles.
With LFIRE4D being a designated nationwide interop channel, permitted usage includes inter-agency communications, although given the fact that low band is essentially dead in many parts of the state, it's nowhere near as viable a resource as it once was. A number of areas have replaced 45.88 with trunked system talkgroups, either within the same regional system (e.g. CNYICC) or between disparate systems via an ISSI link (e.g. "Quad State" on the Orange and Rockland systems, which Pike PA and Sussex NJ 911 centers also utilize).
With LFIRE4D being a designated nationwide interop channel, permitted usage includes inter-agency communications, although given the fact that low band is essentially dead in many parts of the state, it's nowhere near as viable a resource as it once was. A number of areas have replaced 45.88 with trunked system talkgroups, either within the same regional system (e.g. CNYICC) or between disparate systems via an ISSI link (e.g. "Quad State" on the Orange and Rockland systems, which Pike PA and Sussex NJ 911 centers also utilize).
* discrete/distinct systems, not "disparate" 🤦♂️
Yes, Westchester, Putnam, and Dutchess counties use it here in the Hudson Valley. I wouldn't be surprised if other counties in the HV use it as well, I just don't receive it.
I have heard Washington and Saratoga counties on it. In the immediate capital region, it was supplanted by CDERN.
countryboy14057
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Erie County has base station on 45.880.
I'm a 911 dispatcher in Chemung County. We monitor & transmit 45.88 on a daily basis for inter-county communications. As of now, there is no plan for band reassignment. It is only useful for contacting surrounding counties in NY. We border 2 PA counties and have to communicate with them via telephone.
N0BDW
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Livingston County still uses it to coordinate with surrounding counties.
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"The frequency 45.88 MHz shall be named “LFIRE4D” (Pronounced “L-Fire-Four-Dee”). It is understood that the transition of new channel naming will take time. To facilitate this change all users should begin utilizing the LFIRE4D name and program visual displays in radio equipment with the name when possible. Agencies should notify their users of this channel name update so they become familiar with the new name and how it relates to the current appearance in their radios"
Because saying "45.88" hasn't worked for the past 50 years. I grew up listening to this frequency.
Genesee to Batavia 45.88
Genesee to LeRoy 48.88
Genesee to Livingston 45.88
Genesee to Wyoming 45.88
Genesee to Monroe 45.88
Genesee to Orleans 45.88
Genesee to Niagara 45.88
Genesee to Erie 45.88
Now:
Genesee to Wyoming LFIRE4D - Yeah NYS, that makes a ton of sense.
Why rename something that has been is use for 50 plus years?
Because saying "45.88" hasn't worked for the past 50 years. I grew up listening to this frequency.
Genesee to Batavia 45.88
Genesee to LeRoy 48.88
Genesee to Livingston 45.88
Genesee to Wyoming 45.88
Genesee to Monroe 45.88
Genesee to Orleans 45.88
Genesee to Niagara 45.88
Genesee to Erie 45.88
Now:
Genesee to Wyoming LFIRE4D - Yeah NYS, that makes a ton of sense.
Why rename something that has been is use for 50 plus years?
You're still complaining about this same thing a full decade later? I think perhaps it's time to get over it and move on with life.
County linked to 45.88
Here what sounded like radio repair mobile on the northway coming thru 45.88 heard them say "On pinicalle" or how ever you spell it....sounded like a repeater or link to the transmitter from ?????
trainman111
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This isn't new. DHSES issued a memo 8 years ago announcing the change in naming, to standardize channels names for all the interop channels in use statewide to put them in line with the naming of the National Interop Frequencies.
I dont know many that use the LFIRE designator anyway. Most traffic I hear still says 45.88.
It's like the old "Intersystem" vs "Point to Point" between police dispatch centers. Many dispatchers called both channels "Point to Point" or "The Point". Now they have distinctive channel designators, although they are probably just as prevalent as the 45.88 names.
Nah I'm with him on this one. You can put out memos all day long but I still have never seen or heard "LFIRE4D" on or in a radio.You're still complaining about this same thing a full decade later? I think perhaps it's time to get over it and move on with life.
County linked to 45.88
Here what sounded like radio repair mobile on the northway coming thru 45.88 heard them say "On pinicalle" or how ever you spell it....sounded like a repeater or link to the transmitter from ?????forums.radioreference.com
I know Pike, PA and Sussex, NJ use it but how often does Orange and Rockland use it for communication between the two counties? Also any future implementation elsewhere with the Quad State? Such as any Bergen or Passaic County agencies or 911 centers looking to use it?
It's used, however there's not a lot of activity requiring the two counties to communicate that often.
Yes, there are plans to bring it online elsewhere. At least 3 counties in the works currently, but it's been a very slow process.
Haven’t heard it in the immediate Capital District in quite a while! Dave, CDERN is only LE not fire? could you have confused it with something else?
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