Static in Frequency with full connection

[gving10]

Recently programmed the Maine State Police in my area on my Uniden BCT15x Sometimes it’s clear and I hear every word when they talk over the radio, and then other times there is static, when I have 5 full bars of connection. One cop will come in fine, while another has a ton of static. Other local police departments come in fine with no static at all. Am I a frequency off? Does it have to do with my distance from the tower? (50 min away)

 

[ecps92]

When you say static, could this be Encryption on certain Talk-Groups ?

What make/model radio - as some block ENC and which Site are you locked onto as well as the Talk-Groups you are listening to ?

Also probably best to select a closer site than one 50 mins away - which could be loss of signal

Recently programmed the Maine State Police in my area on my Uniden BCT15x Sometimes it’s clear and I hear every word when they talk over the radio, and then other times there is static, when I have 5 full bars of connection. One cop will come in fine, while another has a ton of static. Other local police departments come in fine with no static at all. Am I a frequency off? Does it have to do with my distance from the tower? (50 min away)

 

[garys]

Maine State Police use the statewide P25 trunk system. Some traffic is simulcast on analog channels, but hearing that will depend on where you are.

The 15X is analog only, you'll need a digital scanner to hear the trunk system. Portland is on their own P25 trunk.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Hi & welcome to the RR forums! You will need one of these scanners to track Maine State Communications Network (MSCommNet):

The following scanners can only decode P25 Phase I, but not Phase II

• GRE PSR-500, PSR-600
• Radio Shack Pro-96 1, Pro-2096 1, Pro-106, Pro-197, Pro-18, Pro-651, Pro-652
• Uniden BC296D 1, BC796D 1, BCD396T, BCD996T, BCD996XT, BCD396XT, HomePatrol-1
• Whistler WS1040, WS1065

Additionally, the scanners here can also do the job but they're more expensive since they can also track P25 Phase-II among other digital modes
The following scanners can decode P25 Phase I, Phase II, and Motorola X2-TDMA systems.

• GRE PSR-800
• Radio Shack Pro-18, Pro-668
• Uniden BCD325P2, BCD436HP, BCD536HP, BCD996P2, HomePatrol-2, SDS100, SDS200
• Whistler WS1080, WS1088, WS1095, WS1098, TRX-1, TRX-2

 

[ecps92]

should have had my Coffee before replying
Would have re-read the Analog Scanner

Maine State Police use the statewide P25 trunk system. Some traffic is simulcast on analog channels, but hearing that will depend on where you are.

The 15X is analog only, you'll need a digital scanner to hear the trunk system. Portland is on their own P25 trunk.

 

[ME343]

Yes, MSCommNet is Digital but they do have the analog Simulcast Channels on some regionnets.

 

[garys]

Lack of coffee can result in mistakes. I know. Maine is still an odd system to me. I'll get the same traffic on the MSCOM trunk, a P25 conventional, and sometimes even an analog channel simultaneously sometimes. It all depends on what tower I'm in range of.

I rarely go north of Portland, but I imagine it's more mixed the further north you go.

should have had my Coffee before replying
Would have re-read the Analog Scanner

 

[gving10]

When you say static, could this be Encryption on certain Talk-Groups ?

What make/model radio - as some block ENC and which Site are you locked onto as well as the Talk-Groups you are listening to ?

Also probably best to select a closer site than one 50 mins away - which could be loss of signal

Lack of coffee can result in mistakes. I know. Maine is still an odd system to me. I'll get the same traffic on the MSCOM trunk, a P25 conventional, and sometimes even an analog channel simultaneously sometimes. It all depends on what tower I'm in range of.

I rarely go north of Portland, but I imagine it's more mixed the further north you go.

so there’s no possible way to clearly get the State police? I’ve heard Trooper 603 call over the radio then have seen him 10 min later. Same with many other troopers. Just when they come in over the radio there’s that bit of static. I don’t know how to explain it, and am totally new to all of this so I don’t even know what kind of static or whatever could be the issues. I just know that sometimes I hear them perfectly, and other times it’s all choppy on what they say.

 

[mmckenna]

Recently programmed the Maine State Police in my area on my Uniden BCT15x Sometimes it’s clear and I hear every word when they talk over the radio, and then other times there is static, when I have 5 full bars of connection. One cop will come in fine, while another has a ton of static. Other local police departments come in fine with no static at all. Am I a frequency off? Does it have to do with my distance from the tower? (50 min away)

No, what you are experiencing is typical for analog repeaters.

The repeater simply retransmits what it hears. If the officers radio is on the fringes of the repeater coverage, the signal may arrive at the repeater with some static. The repeater simply retransmits what it hears. You are seeing 'full bars' on your scanner because your scanner can hear the repeater well.

If one officer is in a good coverage area of that repeater, then it'll have a good signal into the repeater, and you'll hear a good strong signal on your scanner.
If another officer is in a fringe coverage area, their radio traffic may arrive at the repeater with some static. The repeater simply retransmits what it hears, static and all. Your scanner will still show 'full bars' because it's hearing the repeater clearly. The static is on the receiving side of the repeater, not on the transmit side that your scanner hears.

 

[gving10]

No, what you are experiencing is typical for analog repeaters.

The repeater simply retransmits what it hears. If the officers radio is on the fringes of the repeater coverage, the signal may arrive at the repeater with some static. The repeater simply retransmits what it hears. You are seeing 'full bars' on your scanner because your scanner can hear the repeater well.

If one officer is in a good coverage area of that repeater, then it'll have a good signal into the repeater, and you'll hear a good strong signal on your scanner.
If another officer is in a fringe coverage area, their radio traffic may arrive at the repeater with some static. The repeater simply retransmits what it hears, static and all. Your scanner will still show 'full bars' because it's hearing the repeater clearly. The static is on the receiving side of the repeater, not on the transmit side that your scanner hears.

Thank you. Is there any possible away to filter that out somehow? Or it’s probably stuck that way because of the type of scanner it is, and it just repeats what it gets?

 

[mmckenna]

Thank you. Is there any possible away to filter that out somehow? Or it’s probably stuck that way because of the type of scanner it is, and it just repeats what it gets?

The repeater simply repeats what it hears. It's not a problem with your scanner, and there's no way for you to fix it.

 

[gving10]

The repeater simply repeats what it hears. It's not a problem with your scanner, and there's no way for you to fix it.

ok, thank you!

 

[ecps92]

Which specific frequency are you listening to? That is presenting the problem

there are some in Analog that patch from the P25 trunk and then there are others that are P25 Trunked.

so there’s no possible way to clearly get the State police? I’ve heard Trooper 603 call over the radio then have seen him 10 min later. Same with many other troopers. Just when they come in over the radio there’s that bit of static. I don’t know how to explain it, and am totally new to all of this so I don’t even know what kind of static or whatever could be the issues. I just know that sometimes I hear them perfectly, and other times it’s all choppy on what they say.

 

[ecps92]

The Analog Repeaters are to patch for Interop from the P25 TG's for the Local/County units to be able to monitor

No, what you are experiencing is typical for analog repeaters.

The repeater simply retransmits what it hears. If the officers radio is on the fringes of the repeater coverage, the signal may arrive at the repeater with some static. The repeater simply retransmits what it hears. You are seeing 'full bars' on your scanner because your scanner can hear the repeater well.

If one officer is in a good coverage area of that repeater, then it'll have a good signal into the repeater, and you'll hear a good strong signal on your scanner.
If another officer is in a fringe coverage area, their radio traffic may arrive at the repeater with some static. The repeater simply retransmits what it hears, static and all. Your scanner will still show 'full bars' because it's hearing the repeater clearly. The static is on the receiving side of the repeater, not on the transmit side that your scanner hears.

 

[mmckenna]

The Analog Repeaters are to patch for Interop from the P25 TG's for the Local/County units to be able to monitor

Patching to a P25 system or not, it's still the same issue. Garbage signal in = garbage signal out, just with a better RSSI.

 

[12dbsinad]

Patching to a P25 system or not, it's still the same issue. Garbage signal in = garbage signal out, just with a better RSSI.

Maine SP re-transmits the output of the primary zone traffic (digital trunked P25) on analog freq's throughout the State for interop. If the signal comes in garbled, then SP dispatch will get the same and wouldn't be able to copy.