Still having same problems after new scanner

[AZScanner]

We are not all complete idiots around here, just paritial ones. :wink:

Maybe if we all stood in the same place at once then we could be complete. I hate the thought of being incomplete. :lol:

Anyway, how about telling us what system this is that you want to monitor? That would be a good start...

-AZ

 

[mciupa]

AZ, I believe it was this one:

http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=TRSDB&sid=323

 

[kg4icg]

the lack of weather reception is because in win96 he turned it off and then uploaded to the scanner which guess what. that's all he did, if he goes back and looks at his files he'll see that.

R Collins :roll:

 

[loumaag]

Hmmmm, Thanks for your sarcasm loumaag. ...

1. Nothing in my post was sarcasitc. :? In fact it was time for the semi-annual discussion of LCN. :lol:
2. It was not addressed to you. 8)
3. You may apologize at any time for going off like you did. :wink:

If you have a specific problem, you should ask for assistance in a clear and complete manner. (Another reason to show that I was not addressing anything to you.) People are certainly ready to help others on this site; however, they should not have to pull the problem out of you like trying to extract a molar!

 

[wadeless28]

loumaag, if you we not being sarcastic then I apologize. I must have been a bit on edge yesterday.

Anyway here’s my problem. I was on vacation in Ocean City Maryland and had two scanners with me. A mobile mounted PRO-2067 and a PRO-95. I had all of the frequencies programmed in, in their logical channel order to the last ten channels in bank one on each scanner, and all of the TG’s programmed in by their DEC. I could not pick any transmissions. I checked the radio out to make sure I had good reception so no problem there. So I reprogrammed the PRO-95 so the frequencies would be entered in order starting at channel 00 in bank 2. I started to receive transmissions but only the radio was in the open mode. I checked the radio and it was still closed. The problem I then noticed was, different channels, even different agencies, would show up one what my radio showed as the same TG, which I know is not right.

What makes me think there is a “trick” I am missing with programming EDAC’s is, that Worcester County, Maryland also has EDAC’s and I’m having the same problem in that bank. Now, on this thread Don Starr (the radio programming god) mentioned that EDAC’s could be picked up if the frequencies were entered in LCN starting on channel 01 it the scanner bank. The PRO-96 was mentioned specifically but I was wondering if this solution could also be used on the 95 and 2067, which are also Radio Shack/GRE products.

Any help would be appreciated.

Regards,
Mike

 

[scannerfreak]

Hmmmm, Thanks for your sarcasm loumaag. ...

1. Nothing in my post was sarcasitc. :? In fact it was time for the semi-annual discussion of LCN. :lol:

:lol: :lol:

 

[W4KRR]

So I reprogrammed the PRO-95 so the frequencies would be entered in order starting at channel 00 in bank 2.

wadeless, when programming an EDACS system, you won't ever program a frequency into channel X00. Always start with LCN frequency 1 going into channel X01, LCN frequency 2 going into channel x02, etc. You can't just program the EDACS frequencies into any place in a bank you feel like, it won't work if you do.

Yes, this goes for all trunk tracking scanners.

 

[wadeless28]

Thats what I need..........I appreciate it W4KRR. I just needed that confirmation.

And by the way. You guys do rock when it comes to answering questions.

Mike

 

[loumaag]

So I reprogrammed the PRO-95 so the frequencies would be entered in order starting at channel 00 in bank 2.

wadeless, when programming an EDACS system, you won't ever program a frequency into channel X00. Always start with LCN frequency 1 going into channel X01, LCN frequency 2 going into channel x02, etc. You can't just program the EDACS frequencies into any place in a bank you feel like, it won't work if you do.

Yes, this goes for all trunk tracking scanners.

W4KRR, this is the correct answer for wadeless' problem; for the system he mentioned (Ocean City, MD), this is the correct lineup.

However, this is not exact information as it applies to EDACS systems in general. Without being critical of the information provided, everyone (once again ) has to realize that EDACS systems do not universally start a LCN with 1. They can start anywhere within the 25 numbers allowed by system definition. They can skip numbers. That was the point I was trying to make above. In other words, if there is an LCN 1 then by all means put it in bank slot n01. If there is a LCN 2, then bank slot n02, and so on. Just don't assume they all start with 1, or that they all go 1, 2, 3, ...; they all don't. They may well start at LCN 16 and be LCN 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 going into scanner slots n16, n17, n18, n19, n20. There may be holes, where there are missing numbers. If so, the scanner has to also program them with the same holes. Take a look at the RACOM system here on the site for examples of both not starting with 1 and for holes in the lineup. Is this common? Well no, it is not common, but it is not uncommon either, especially with networked systems.

There is an advantage in this tidbit of information, and that is, it allows us to program more than one EDACS site per bank on a system (or geographically seperated different systems) which uses this 'odd' LCN grouping. All you have to do is make sure they don't interfer with each other. That process; however, is a topic for a different instructional thread.

 

[W4KRR]

Lou, you are of course correct, but I was trying to emphisize that you never use channel x00 for an EDACS system, as there is never an LCN channel zero (AFAIK). :?

 

[loumaag]

Lou, you are of course correct, but I was trying to emphisize that you never use channel x00 for an EDACS system, as there is never an LCN channel zero (AFAIK). :?

Ken, you are right! I really should include that tidbit for this topic when it comes up again in 6 months (6 weeks, 6 days, 6 hours.... ). :wink:

 

[wadeless28]

He He He He..........

Oh what did I start.

I see what you are talking about loumaag. I have a uniden that tracks the system fine when I load the system up starting at channel 1 (since it is the first channel in the bank). If I do have problems after I move the system to channel 1 on the GRE's I will have to do some ivestigative work to find out what line up works best.

Either that or go to one, or all, of the firehouses and find out who has a GRE radio and get a snapshot of it.

Adapt and Overcome!!!!

Thanks Again

Mike