Summit Co Freqs

[theaton]

I assumed the old coventional repeater had coverage outside the UCAN range, but I don't know. 800 MHz is great for broad valleys surrounded by high mountains but poor for winding canyons like Echo. It requires better line-of-sight than VHF. It may never be affordable to convert some parts of Utah to 800 MHz.

 

[Rolfman]

Yes, the 866.9375 that is Wasatch Simocast replaces everything else! All the old CC's are simply gone!

Is that just the Quarry Mountain Site 23 or:

Are
Parley's Canyon Site 13
Strawberry Peak Site 21
Lewis Peak Site 22
Summit Co. Site 24
Clayton Peak Site 26
Wasatch Site 27
Current Creek Site 28
Also now using 866.9375 as their Control Channel?

If this has been verified maybe the DB ought to be updated to reflect this?

If anyone wants my TG list, or my un-Id hits, let me know, and I'll send direct.

Also if you have TG's that are verified and not in the DB send them in please.

 

[qlajlu]

Very Confusing

I find this all very, nay, extremely confusing.

I am sitting here in my home in Kearns against the Oquirrhs listening to TG 48000, which is Summit County Dispatch run by Summit County Sheriff's Office, and I am copying this traffic from Nelson Peak which straddles Salt Lake and Tooele Counties. In the past I have heard Summit SO cars and UHP cars talk with each other in Echo Canyon as far east as the old Port of Entry on the Utah/Wyoming State line. I have also copied EMS in Echo Canyon. Now you tell me that Summit SO is NOT trunked. Me thinks someone forgot to tell the bloody radios!

This is almost like out of Star Wars or Harry Potter where ANYTHING is possible.

 

[theaton]

No need to be confused. It's very common for an agency to leave an old conventional system in place while using a new trunked system--often with the two linked together. This was probably necessary in a county like Summit that has diverse terrain and likely many 800 MHz blind spots. The county would be reluctant to give up the old system until the new one was better in all locations, which could take several iterations of installations and testing (which might not be cost-effective). Remember that 800 MHz has a big advantage in number of available frequencies but a disadvantage in coverage around obstacles compared to VHF. A hybrid system can provide the best of both worlds (even for scanning enthusiasts!).

I don't know if all the conventional and UCAN traffic is linked in Summit County. I've heard both input and output on the Summit SO and Roads repeaters in recent years. I've never found an input for 155.085 (EMS) even while listening to traffic while driving through Coalville and Kamas, so it may be simply a UCAN simulcast.

I thought I had all the Summit Co. conventional repeaters nailed until I was at a family reunion in Park City this summer and logged traffic on 153.815, 453.225, and 460.4625. I even listened to a report of a bear citing! So conventional repeaters are alive and well in Summit County.

-Tim

 

[KT7L]

I think Tim's explanation makes a lot of sense... I will try to confirm with the Summit Sheriff in the next few months.

And yes, there are other groups that use both the VHF and UCAN, but in terms of traffic, I think they are mostly using the 800mhz freqs now.

Rolfman:

"Parley's Canyon Site 13
Strawberry Peak Site 21
Lewis Peak Site 22
Summit Co. Site 24
Clayton Peak Site 26
Wasatch Site 27
Current Creek Site 28
Also now using 866.9375 as their Control Channel?"

I can confirm that Lewis and Summit are down -- but I will have to do some tests for the others -- perhaps with an outdoor antenna to be sure.... perhaps Junior1970 has already done that...

I only have a couple new TG's that I feel I have ID'd correctly -- let me do some more work before posting to the DB. (Much easier to sit back and listen, like the lazy person I am, than do investigative work!)


On another subject: There will be a Red Cross 'Planned Emergency' the morning of September 12th in the SL Valley. Among other things, they will:

"Test the Red Cross commuinication systems and use the trunking radios and famiiarize with their operations and function".

I'll be there, as part of ARES, using one of their new, trunking HT's

Don't ask -- I don't know anything more about their trunking -- TG's, etc. Ham repeaters will also be in use -- If you want to monitor, try 146.700 Ensign Peak, 145.490 'voice from Tooele' Much of the exercise is secret -- which is the purpose of the test -- The 'event' will happen mid-morning, the test should be complete by noon.

-- Bob

 

[Rolfman]

Thanks for the intel!

 

[enosjones]

If you have a 396t you can have it sit or manually stopped on the control channel and it will tell you SID:7202h-00XX alternating with what you named your trunked system within the programed system in your scanner. this may help with tracking down the site #'s and which system its from. Its helped me alot going to slc and back. I dont know if the other trunking scanners work this way.