Talk group quest

[SA_tx_88116]

I entered my site frequencies entered my system id as TxWARN (cause I live in Texas) entered my talk group id’s but I still don’t understand how this works can somebody please explain this to me.

 

[RaleighGuy]

What scanner do you have? What software are you using to program the scanner?

You want to program the system as a P25 system, enter in the control channels for the site or sites you are close to, and add the talkgroups or TG Wildcard. Not sure where you entered the "system id as TxWARN" but you do not need a name to program your system.

Keep in mind, if this is a simulcast system and you do not have a SDS100/200 scanner there will be issues with reception.

 

[doctordialtone]

can somebody please explain this to me.

As was explained in this post, 1) your scanner isn't capable of receiving those systems - it's too old, and 2) The systems with an E in the mode column are encrypted, so no scanner can receive those.

(It's a RadioShack pro 197)

Sorry.

 

[SA_tx_88116]

As was explained in this post, 1) your scanner isn't capable of receiving those systems - it's too old, and 2) The systems with an E in the mode column are encrypted, so no scanner can receive those.

(It's a RadioShack pro 197)

Sorry.

If my scanner is too old then how do I program talk groups

 

[RaleighGuy]

If my scanner is too old then how do I program talk groups

What he is saying is your scanner will not receive and decode the control channels which mean they will not decode/play the audio on the TGs. You need to upgrade the scanner to a P25 Phase 2 scanner.

 

[SA_tx_88116]

Oh got it

 

[SA_tx_88116]

What he is saying is your scanner will not receive and decode the control channels which mean they will not decode/play the audio on the TGs. You need to upgrade the scanner to a P25 Phase 2 scanner.

Is a uniden bearcat BCD436HP capable of picking up digital talk groups?

 

[RaleighGuy]

Is a uniden bearcat BCD436HP capable of picking up digital talk groups?

Again, it is NOT about the talkgroups, it is about being P25 Phase 2 capable. But what you haven't shared is what sites you are trying to listen to, many are simulcast and the only scanner that is designed to work with simulcast sites is the SDS100 or SDS200.

APCO Project 25 - The RadioReference Wiki

wiki.radioreference.com

 

[SA_tx_88116]

Again, it is NOT about the talkgroups, it is about being P25 Phase 2 capable. But what you haven't shared is what sites you are trying to listen to, many are simulcast and the only scanner that is designed to work with simulcast sites is the SDS100 or SDS200.

APCO Project 25 - The RadioReference Wiki

wiki.radioreference.com

The site I am using is Cibolo

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

What he is saying is your scanner will not receive and decode the control channels which mean they will not decode/play the audio on the TGs. You need to upgrade the scanner to a P25 Phase 2 scanner.

Half true. As I tried explaining to the OP here. Mode "D" (Digital, FDMA) talkgroups can be picked up on a Phase-II system using a non-phase-II scanner (like the OP's Pro 197). Whereas the mode "T" (two-slot TDMA) talkgroups cannot be picked up. OP will need to focus on the "Mode" column per talkgroup table in the DB to determine what can be picked up by the Pro 197

 

[RaleighGuy]

The site I am using is Cibolo

That site is not TxWARN as you asked about early it is a different site.

Half true. As I tried explaining to the OP here. Mode "D" (Digital, FDMA) talkgroups can be picked up on a Phase-II system using a non-phase-II scanner (like the OP's Pro 197). Whereas the mode "T" (two-slot TDMA) talkgroups cannot be picked up. OP will need to focus on the "Mode" column per talkgroup table in the DB to determine what can be picked up

He has changed systems on us and all the TGs onthe new system in his county are TDMA

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

He has changed systems on us and all the TGs onthe new system in his county are TDMA

CIbolo's mode "D" as I showed the OP here. Also tvengr did some site research on post #12 of the linked thread and found that simulcast distortion shouldn't be a factor so there shouldn't be an issue if the Pro 197 is programmed properly

 

[SA_tx_88116]

CIbolo's mode "D" as I told the OP here...

 

[SA_tx_88116]

I only use the first 4 and the 2 citywide one’s

 

[SA_tx_88116]

And here I use the one with the id of 12103

 

[dave3825]

Again, it is NOT about the talkgroups, it is about being P25 Phase 2 capable. But what you haven't shared is what sites you are trying to listen to,

@SA_tx_88116 you were asked about sites and your last 3 posts reflect systems and talk groups. If you want the help, its best to answer the questions being asked and post the information being asked. From your replies, it seems you do not understand how trunking works. I suggest you read this over as it explains it pretty well.


Understanding Trunking


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[SA_tx_88116]

@SA_tx_88116 you were asked about sites and your last 3 posts reflect systems and talk groups. If you want the help, its best to answer the questions being asked and post the information being asked. From your replies, it seems you do not understand how trunking works. I suggest you read this over as it explains it pretty well.


Understanding Trunking


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Alright thanks