Temple PD Digital

[hiegtx]

The Pro-97 might work for the analog (non-ProVoice) talkgroups. The system is not listed as using the ESK (unlike DFW Airport).

Rebanding is not an issue for EDACS, as you enter all the LCN's. For a Motorola Type II system, rebanding may require custom tables entry (which cannot be done on the Pro-97) unless all system frequencies, both control channels & voice, have a 5 in the fourth decimal position.

Look at this system: Dallas City Local Government Trunking System, Dallas, Texas - Scanner Frequencies
All the "rebanded" frequencies, those below 854.0000, have the 5 in the fourth decimal position; example 851.4125.

Now, look at Garland Public Safety Trunking System, Garland, Texas - Scanner Frequencies

It's rebanded frequencies all have zeros in that fourth slot, example example 851.875. A custom band plan table is required for this system.

 

[aimedtoannoy]

Im all set up and in discovering mode so far all that has come up that isnt in the database is 03-154 analog which I'm assuming S.O. Just not sure what its used for. Sounds like a dispatch channel but at times it sounds like a tac channel. Haven't picked up any provoice yet.

 

[hiegtx]

Im all set up and in discovering mode so far all that has come up that isnt in the database is 03-154 analog which I'm assuming S.O. Just not sure what its used for. Sounds like a dispatch channel but at times it sounds like a tac channel. Haven't picked up any provoice yet.

Don't forget that, on EDACS systems, you can use a version of a wildcard, either instead of having the scanner set as "ID-Search", or in addition to it.

Looking at the talkgroup ID you mentioned, 03-154, enter a TGID in the scanner as just "03" (without the quotes). That will catch any law enforcement TGID that starts with a 3. "02" would get the other LE groups starting with that. (Looking at the system, I see most law enforcement starts with either of those. Most fire & EMS is in 04.

 

[aimedtoannoy]

Don't forget that, on EDACS systems, you can use a version of a wildcard, either instead of having the scanner set as "ID-Search", or in addition to it.

Looking at the talkgroup ID you mentioned, 03-154, enter a TGID in the scanner as just "03" (without the quotes). That will catch any law enforcement TGID that starts with a 3. "02" would get the other LE groups starting with that. (Looking at the system, I see most law enforcement starts with either of those. Most fire & EMS is in 04.

Thanks for letting me know, this is the first time I have worked with EDACS at this level. (from ohio, edacs is pretty much non existent)

 

[aimedtoannoy]

anyone with the provoice update in the area, put 09-070 in, I only got one hit off of it but it came in as digital.

 

[TaumusSr]

Temple PD and Uniden 436hp

Thanks for the info, I appreciate it.

 

[Ensnared]

Thanks

anyone with the provoice update in the area, put 09-070 in, I only got one hit off of it but it came in as digital.

Good work. I greatly appreciate this. When I get home tonight, I will load this into my 436HP. I am currently listening to my recordings attempting to identify 09-061 and 09-062. I can tell you that Temple PD is aware that they can be overhead since the 12-28-15 surveillance recording talk about keeping content off of the air and going to "LEO." I am assuming this means LE operations."

I am hearing units talking, car to car, about establishing PC on several cars on TG 09-047. I heard traffic on this talk group on 12-28-15, same MO.

 

[aimedtoannoy]

Good work. I greatly appreciate this. When I get home tonight, I will load this into my 436HP. I am currently listening to my recordings attempting to identify 09-061 and 09-062. I can tell you that Temple PD is aware that they can be overhead since the 12-28-15 surveillance recording talk about keeping content off of the air and going to "LEO." I am assuming this means LE operations."

I am hearing units talking, car to car, about establishing PC on several cars on TG 09-047. I heard traffic on this talk group on 12-28-15, same MO.

I havent heard any of the TG you have mentioned, weird. The only other 09-0xx I have picked up was 09-006. but I have also noticed there are alot of TG that are not on the database that I am still trying to figure out. The numbers arent making sence as to what I am hearing like I would assume 09 would be some sort of law enforcement but 09-006 seems like its medical, it seems like its alot of EMS to Scott & White traffic.

 

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09 Bell

I havent heard any of the TG you have mentioned, weird. The only other 09-0xx I have picked up was 09-006. but I have also noticed there are alot of TG that are not on the database that I am still trying to figure out. The numbers arent making sence as to what I am hearing like I would assume 09 would be some sort of law enforcement but 09-006 seems like its medical, it seems like its alot of EMS to Scott & White traffic.

Yes, I have heard some 09-xxx talk groups, particularly medical, but these are not digital. Today, hopefully, I will be monitoring the system at work today. Hopefully, my patients won't show. Lately, things have been rather slow and boring. So, it is great having a scanner in my office,

Truthfully, I thought the "09" part of EDACS specified various departments in the system, but I guess I was wrong. For instance, Bell County fire begins with 04-xxx. Once we figure this system out, Bell County might be migrating to the new Bell County P25. By the way, are you using 436 or 536HP?

 

[aimedtoannoy]

Yes, I have heard some 09-xxx talk groups, particularly medical, but these are not digital. Today, hopefully, I will be monitoring the system at work today. Hopefully, my patients won't show. Lately, things have been rather slow and boring. So, it is great having a scanner in my office,

Truthfully, I thought the "09" part of EDACS specified various departments in the system, but I guess I was wrong. For instance, Bell County fire begins with 04-xxx. Once we figure this system out, Bell County might be migrating to the new Bell County P25. By the way, are you using 436 or 536HP?

I am using the 436, how long has temple been on PRV? I'm new to the area so I'm not sure.

 

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ProVoice Onset

I am using the 436, how long has temple been on PRV? I'm new to the area so I'm not sure.

I am uncertain as to when Temple went to ProVoice, but I believe it has been several years since they dropped out of the picture all of the sudden.

Truthfully, I thought Waco was a strange place to live until I started working in Temple. In traffic, I'm reminded of a snail on Librium.

But, the community psychopathology makes for a robust scanning environment.

 

[Ensnared]

Analysis

I have several talk groups I am monitoring. I am hearing narcotic surveillance on two separate talk groups. I did not know DEA was among those talking, but I have several recordings that are quite interesting to say the least. When I am sure of who all is involved in the traffic, I will be submitting these for the RR DB. Until that time, I will continue to monitor traffic. I thought Waco was the most exciting radio traffic in this area, but I am starting to see Temple is full of criminal activity. If you are in the area of 25th and Adams, and you are holding, make sure you signal 100 feet before the intersection and follow all traffic rules and regulations because there are people waiting to establish PC, I can assure you of that.

 

[aimedtoannoy]

I have several talk groups I am monitoring. I am hearing narcotic surveillance on two separate talk groups. I did not know DEA was among those talking, but I have several recordings that are quite interesting to say the least. When I am sure of who all is involved in the traffic, I will be submitting these for the RR DB. Until that time, I will continue to monitor traffic. I thought Waco was the most exciting radio traffic in this area, but I am starting to see Temple is full of criminal activity. If you are in the area of 25th and Adams, and you are holding, make sure you signal 100 feet before the intersection and follow all traffic rules and regulations because there are people waiting to establish PC, I can assure you of that.

Yep Temple is pretty interesting to listen to, All of bell county is also pretty interesting to listen to. I'm still getting used to how they talk on their radios compared to Ohio (I just moved to texas). Havent had much time to go onto discovery mode because I usually keep my radio with me when I leave, but I will eventually get another radio soon to leave on discovery, There are alot of TGs that I pick up that arent on the database. It looks like DPS may have a TG on here but it may just be another sheriffs channel I hear them on, I read that DPS by texas law has to have access to sheriffs radio systems. (Correct me if im wrong)

 

[hiegtx]

Yep Temple is pretty interesting to listen to, It looks like DPS may have a TG on here but it may just be another sheriffs channel I hear them on, I read that DPS by texas law has to have access to sheriffs radio systems. (Correct me if im wrong)

I'm not sure if that is exactly a "law", however, it definitely customary for TX DPS officers to utilize the frequencies, or talkgroups, used by the county they are working in. In many cases, should there be trouble, his or her closest back-up would be a local officer. The closest available DPS unit could well be a county or two away.

 

[Russell]

It's been a long time, but my understanding is by Texas "law", Texas SOs must provide DPS access to their radio systems. It's probably in the Government Code somewhere which is kind of like reading tax code. In the old days that simply meant letting DPS know what frequencies the SO were using and SOs be prepared to talk to DPS on the SO channel. Nowadays, that translates to possibly providing programming to a DPS radio, including encryption codes, if necessary, especially on non-VHF systems and trunked systems. I don't know who buys the radio. If you listen, many DPS units operate off the SO channel for the county in which they are working. They work very close together; unless you know the unit numbers it's hard to tell which units are SO and which are DPS. They don't generally say DPS xxxx to blah blah SO.

 

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Bell County Talk Groups

I was monitoring the Bell County EDACS system the other day and heard Temple PD gearing up for training on talk group 09-045. They referred to this talk group as "SWAT-1." This was a PV transmission. I am continuing to hear narcotics surveillance on Temple PD talk group 09-047; however, I don't know if this is a countywide narcotics channel. At present, I have heard only Temple PD activity on this talk group.

I also discovered a completely new Bell County Talk Group involving narcotics profiling along IH35 near Salado and Amity School road. The talk group was 08-103, PV. Those talking on this channel referred to themselves as Detectives.

 

[aimedtoannoy]

I was monitoring the Bell County EDACS system the other day and heard Temple PD gearing up for training on talk group 09-045. They referred to this talk group as "SWAT-1." This was a PV transmission. I am continuing to hear narcotics surveillance on Temple PD talk group 09-047; however, I don't know if this is a countywide narcotics channel. At present, I have heard only Temple PD activity on this talk group.

I also discovered a completely new Bell County Talk Group involving narcotics profiling along IH35 near Salado and Amity School road. The talk group was 08-103, PV. Those talking on this channel referred to themselves as Detectives.

I will program these into my radio tonight! Thanks for the info! I havent heard these TG's yet tho.
I haven't noticed a pattern with the TG's for the whole system yet. From what I was told is that counties with this type of system order it by number like 08-xxx is for say hospitals and 09-xxx is for police ect. (organization). I do some investigation and see if we cant find a pattern here. once that is figured out, we will at least know who is using that channel

 

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Verify

I will program these into my radio tonight! Thanks for the info! I havent heard these TG's yet tho.
I haven't noticed a pattern with the TG's for the whole system yet. From what I was told is that counties with this type of system order it by number like 08-xxx is for say hospitals and 09-xxx is for police ect. (organization). I do some investigation and see if we cant find a pattern here. once that is figured out, we will at least know who is using that channel

On occasion, I will go into the field to directly observe what type of vehicles are involved in these operations. Most of the time, I'm monitoring radio traffic from MHMR where I work. Hence, I might take off and look for ground units without the antennas on the top of my car, dead giveaway. At present, I have a 1/4 wave all band monitor and K40 CB on top of my pregnant roller skate, 2008 Nissan Versa.

I have not been aggressive about submitting these talk groups since I am basically guessing. I don't trust Temple PD for several reasons I won't disclose within this forum. I know they are aware of others listening to their PV transmissions because I heard them discussing keeping it off the air.

If you are in the area, you might want to find the post I did on finding another talk group for Copperas Cove PD. If you haven't heard them yet, the Copperas Cove transmissions are very strong. I have heard this department while traveling on highway 36 near Hamilton with my outside antenna engaged.

 

[Ensnared]

Temple Area

I have been monitoring 03-031 for some time now with a question mark in my head, particularly since it is PV. Who is talking? Then, I looked under Bell County and discovered this was a talk group for the Bell County Constables Judges Office. I heard traffic consistent with this talk group. I might have to start a thread for Bell County now that I'm finding PV talk groups outside of Temple, Texas. I was working under the assumption that Temple was using the only PV in the Bell County system, but, I was wrong.

 

[Wes]

I don't know how the talkgroups as labeled in the RRDB relate, but I can tell you that the SO talkgroups are no longer labeled rural east, rural west, etc. There's a LE 1, LE 2, LE 3.