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nd5y

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I have analyzed the Petrolia site probably for a total of about 5 hours at different times between about 7am-6pm the past several days and logged nothing.
 

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TX/NM Electric Leonard Texas (Fannin County) WSEG411 451.0375/456.0375 DT3 CC0 TGID: 14193
Simulcast site with 2 in Collin County - Last time I was out Leonard way looking at it, the 3 sites weren't fully on the air (even the control channels were on different frequencies, and the site showed isolated. I can pick up Anna (one of the other sites in the trio) from my home base, let me get my base station back online and I'll start monitoring it.
 

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Simulcast site with 2 in Collin County - Last time I was out Leonard way looking at it, the 3 sites weren't fully on the air (even the control channels were on different frequencies, and the site showed isolated. I can pick up Anna (one of the other sites in the trio) from my home base, let me get my base station back online and I'll start monitoring it.
was also hearing TGID: 14200 Getting 1 bar on both Leonard and Whitewright, 3 bars on Anna and nothing on Princeton. from NE Grayson Co. Can also confirm new antennas at Leonard and Whitewright stations.
 

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Been running proscan logger the last few days and up to three talk groups. 14193, 14196, 14200 with a common User ID of: 13193, 13194 & 9195. My thoughts are that this is part of the radio testing. The communications are too brief and random, feels like they are still in the set up phase.
 

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Today they were testing on the Petrolia site. New TGs 14194 and 14201. Also some others that look like garbage. I don't think SDRTrunk works correctly on this system. Montague site won't decode due to interference and weak signal
 

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Here's something weird, well, different anyhow, Seems proscan caught some iCall traffic. i9204 by UID 9204 so the system is designed for radio to radio calling, don't see a lot of that these days. Also seeing new TGID's: 14207, 14198 and the 14201 you're seeing. All of my activity is coming from 451.037500 on TS: 2. UID: 9404 was also heavy on TGID: 14198. i9204 was active at 10:20 AM and we have sporadic activity all the way to 21:00 so they're putting some hours in on it.
 

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I think I saw unit to unit calls but I don't know what they look like on SDRTrunk.
I haven't ran it today yet. The past few days I have only been able to receive Petrolia site good enough to decode anything.
 

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These storms have been producing more than green foliage! I have found TX/NM for Lamar, Red River and Titus counties.
All three sites share these two frequencies: 451.0750, 452.8375 And this area combined with what I am calling Texoma share one unique talk group: 14193. I don't think they're testing anymore, these might be fully operational now.
 

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All three sites share these two frequencies: 451.0750, 452.8375
It's simulcast. Montague and Young/Jack sites are the same, except Young/Jack has 4 channels. When conditions are good I get multiple simulcast carriers on 451.1375 and nothing on the other 3 but normally to weak to decode so I don't know if all 4 channels are used.
I don't think they're testing anymore, these might be fully operational now.
Last week I saw a lot of traffic but almost none this week. Yesterday I only got a couple hits on Petrolia site on 14193 and 14201.
 

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Princeton (Thistle Sub Station) Is the only one I am not hearing. My propagation to the SE into Princeton/Farmersville has always been bad probably since its low terrain as it buts up to Lake Lavon. Whitewright, Leonard & Westminster (Anna) are simulcast and appear to be sharing TGID: 14193 for primary operations. I'm wondering if 14193 is like a system wide group? I am pulling a Control channel for both Texoma and East Texas and were searching the system I guess time will tell.
 

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Just found Denton County. (Pilot Point) WSEN282 451.05000, 451.21250. Its a jump from my QTH but I'll try and lock a signal and see what we have.
 

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Just found Denton County. (Pilot Point) WSEN282 451.05000, 451.21250. Its a jump from my QTH but I'll try and lock a signal and see what we have.
I have some data from Pilot Point, and hope to head that way with the mobile rig this weekend to build a submission (I have a site ID, but if it's like what I had for Whiteright/Leonard/Westminster simulcast, it might be different than when I first logged it). I'm also going to chase Princeton and verify that all three of the simulcast sites are one site (another artifact from my initial work on it months ago) - if I can nail down those three I'll get them submitted, and that will leave Lewisville (which I was in that area a few weeks ago and didn't pick it up) in the DFW Metroplex to solve.

I've been logging the simulcast site from my Van Alstyne base station for the last couple of days (other than this morning when Microsoft rebooted my computer with an update), so I have a good picture of the site right now, and I want to run the recordings to see if there's anything that can identify talkgroups/usage.
 

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Sounds like a wrap then. I think we've logged about 16 TGID's, 14193 seems to be a common one all sites share. I'm not sophisticated enough to identify site ID's but am confident on the Texoma stuff and the Lamar/Titus stuff. All I am lacking would be LCN order. It appears CC-0 is system wide and it would be noteworthy on the database submission to include a note about iCall activity on the system. I'm sure someone will submit iCall groups to the wiki later.

been fun watching this system progress and sharing the data. Now I can get back to my deep delve into identifying Southern Oklahoma and this new mess of DMR everyone seems hellbent to jump to.
 
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