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I know nothing about this, so dont ask. Damn long hair hippies will never see that coming. And dont get me started about j-pole mag mounts zip-tied to the under-side of the rear deck. You kids had it easy with your "You Aych Eff" connectors. Real men cut a section of the roof out, and bondo in a dipole.

Get out of here with your screw in contraption.
 

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I know nothing about this, so dont ask. Damn long hair hippies will never see that coming. And dont get me started about j-pole mag mounts zip-tied to the under-side of the rear deck. You kids had it easy with your "You Aych Eff" connectors. Real men cut a section of the roof out, and bondo in a dipole.

Get out of here with your screw in contraption.
Yeah, I didn’t have to use twin-lead like you apparently did.
 

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Our unmarked cars in Boston used the baseball cap in the back window "trick".
With a 4 inch whip under the cap. Good old days
 

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Back in the day, and unmarked car with a disguised antennae was always easy to spot because 99% of the installations were antennae with an universal mount base fender mount. Then there were the known cars that came with the in-glass antennae and there was a fender mount antennae.

It did get a little harder later on in spotting a disguised antennae when they start using antennae with OEM mounting bases however, a car without a license plate frame and standard hub caps were sometimes a dead give-away.
 

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The shop I retired from does state inspections. An undercover officer I knew came into have his surveillance vehicle (a soccer mom white Pontiac Montana) inspected. Part of the procedure is to record the VIN and the license plate. He was watching me write the plate down and came into the shop and told me not to use that plate. He went in a box in the van and handed me the plate that actually went with the Montana. There must have been 10 different license plates in the box.

I have yet to see standard hubcaps on a citizen’s vehicle unless it was previously a municipal vehicle.

They also had a blinged out Chevy Tahoe (gull wing doors, air suspension, gold colored wheels, rubber band tires, etc.) that was taken in a drug raid so appearances can be deceiving.
 

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We kept the stock antenna on the vehicle and installed the Sti-Co splitter in-line that allowed us to use the factory AM/FM for VHF. Easy to install and could move the splitter from vehicle to vehicle easily.

I had "spare tags" for my former unmarked agency vehicle as well, but I usually kept the confidential tag on it.
 

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The shop I retired from does state inspections. An undercover officer I knew came into have his surveillance vehicle (a soccer mom white Pontiac Montana) inspected. Part of the procedure is to record the VIN and the license plate. He was watching me write the plate down and came into the shop and told me not to use that plate. He went in a box in the van and handed me the plate that actually went with the Montana. There must have been 10 different license plates in the box.

I have yet to see standard hubcaps on a citizen’s vehicle unless it was previously a municipal vehicle.

They also had a blinged out Chevy Tahoe (gull wing doors, air suspension, gold colored wheels, rubber band tires, etc.) that was taken in a drug raid so appearances can be deceiving.
Saw that in Ft. Lauderdale many years ago. The narc detectives used impounded cars that weren’t the typical Chevy, Dodge, or Ford “fleet” cars. This particular car was a white Dodge Dart with out of state tags that came from the junk yard. The proper tags were under the driver‘s seat.
 

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I did an install on a seized vehicle (Chevy S-10 Blazer, so yeah, I'm old) for a state agency. Removing the rear area side paneling I found a large bag of marijuana. Called them up and the Lt. came out, he wasn't very happy with his team at that point.
 

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Seized vehicles took months to bring into service: the court ordered forfeiture and appeals, suitability inspection, registration with the State, any upfitting, etc.

Any MJ left hidden in a vehicle after that long of a time would be moldy yard waste, more suitable at sound deadening than smoking.
 

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Seized vehicles took months to bring into service: the court ordered forfeiture and appeals, suitability inspection, registration with the State, any upfitting, etc.

Any MJ left hidden in a vehicle after that long of a time would be moldy yard waste, more suitable at sound deadening than smoking.
Unless of course it's an administrative forfeiture.
 

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But hiding the LOW BAND WHIPS that would have been a task.
sti-co made a diplexer and disguised factory am/fm for both VHF and low band. i was an installer back in the early 90's and our local drug task force put them in everything. we stacked 2 maratracs in the trunk if it was a car and behind the seat if it was a truck. pulled the factory am/fm whip off and then it all tied together to the new one. the big issue was it had a rod inside the whip so it had a rattle. also on the dodge trucks of the time when you keyed the low band it would activate the wipers. LOL
 

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Miami DEA had cowl mount Stico disguise antennas on Camaros. Camaros did not have factory AM FM whip that year (1990's?). it was a windshield antenna at the time. One weekend day my radios went crazy on AWACS traffic and other Coast Guard traffic was dispatched to the Coral Gables waterway. I lived nearby and jumped on my bicycle and headed that way to observe . At a bridge, I noticed a black Camaro had parked and had that Stico antenna. a gentleman was already atop the bridge observing a boat being lifted on Davits at a residence on the waterway. i turned to the guy and asked "is that your Camaro? Yes, nice car!
 
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My first upfitter shop had a contract with USMS and DHS to install their equipment. They did not use any run of the mill police type cars. The only exception was a retail Impala when they first came out in 2000 with the nicer wheels and full center console. Their antennas were the stico cell look alike then they went to the OEM style even put a few 1/4 wave VHF under the body on cars that they didnt make antennas for. Some were witness protection and Judicial security that had to be deep cover. No visable lights or radios
 

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Frankly back then when I started monitoring I never thought about hidden antennas on law enforcement cars etc.
I only thought about hiding my own antennas😵‍💫 I used many types, taped wire to window , hidden in various places etc. None of them worked well. Then when I joined a local volunteer FD, I worried no more and put a long whip on my bumper for low band 46 mhz!
However, this is a very interesting thread.
 
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