Thruway P25 Phase 2 System

[k2hz]

NYSTA has signed a contract with L3Harris to build out the proposed P25 700/800 system over the next 3 years.

"Muller said the P25 deployment is expected to take three years. The first phase of work will involve installing about 1,300 XL-200 mobile radios into authority trucks and other vehicles. These multiband mobile radios will support communications on both the legacy UHF system and the new P25 network, which should ease the technological transition for authority personnel, according to Muller".

L3Harris inks New York State Thruway Authority contract for P25 upgrade

L3Harris Technologies last week announced that the New York State Thruway Authority has contracted it to upgrade the authority’s critical-communications network to a P25 Phase 2 system during the next several years, according to an L3Harris official.

urgentcomm.com

 

[DaveNF2G]

They are running a small P25 system in Albany. It seems to cover only their HQ at Exit 23.

 

[Joshuascanner2021]

They are running a small P25 system in Albany. It seems to cover only their HQ at Exit 23.

Source? Because I don't see anything listed at all, so nothing has been submitted in RR.

 

[Joshuascanner2021]

NYSTA has signed a contract with L3Harris to build out the proposed P25 700/800 system over the next 3 years.

"Muller said the P25 deployment is expected to take three years. The first phase of work will involve installing about 1,300 XL-200 mobile radios into authority trucks and other vehicles. These multiband mobile radios will support communications on both the legacy UHF system and the new P25 network, which should ease the technological transition for authority personnel, according to Muller".

L3Harris inks New York State Thruway Authority contract for P25 upgrade

L3Harris Technologies last week announced that the New York State Thruway Authority has contracted it to upgrade the authority’s critical-communications network to a P25 Phase 2 system during the next several years, according to an L3Harris official.

urgentcomm.com

Finally!

 

[seagravebuff60]

I'm glad to hear that. Thanks for sharing. The third paragraph states this, and I found this interesting and a bit funny.

“It’s about 571 linear miles of coverage,” Muller said during an interview with Urgent Communications. “It is roughly 50 sites—all P25 Phase 2 at 700/800 MHz … It is essentially a statewide system that will be used by New York State Police, too.”

I'm assuming he means used by NYSP Troop T only (Thruway Patrols), and not every NYSP Troop Statewide. Bad wording if you ask me. But im not surprised. I love how NYS is behind with everything.

 

[k2hz]

I'm glad to hear that. Thanks for sharing. The third paragraph states this, and I found this interesting and a bit funny.


I'm assuming he means used by NYSP Troop T only (Thruway Patrols), and not every NYSP Troop Statewide. Bad wording if you ask me. But im not surprised. I love how NYS is behind with everything.

Typical marketing hype. It is "statewide" and will be "used by NYSP" not mentioning actually only "statewide" along the Thruway and only NYSP Troop T.

 

[nikronzo]

Two47 base stations , maybe TDMA CC for vendor locking too if I know my L3Harris.

 

[Joshuascanner2021]

I'm glad to hear that. Thanks for sharing. The third paragraph states this, and I found this interesting and a bit funny.


I'm assuming he means used by NYSP Troop T only (Thruway Patrols), and not every NYSP Troop Statewide. Bad wording if you ask me. But im not surprised. I love how NYS is behind with everything.

Of course NY state has to be one of the very few states now a days that did NOT do an actual state-wide P25 system like MOST of the other states did. I don't know how many exactly that did do an actual state wide P25 system but It seems like most have by this point. But then again NY state also do the weird thing that NY State Police are dispatch by the counties (minus the Thruway that does their own) which I never understood why when practically every other state their State police does their own dispatching and the counties do their own (meaning the counties and state police coordinate together when needed instead of the counties doing it for them meaning state police).

 

[Joshuascanner2021]

Two47 base stations , maybe TDMA CC for vendor locking too if I know my L3Harris.

Digging into the meeting minutes from the Thruway authority (which is not easy to find information on this), the wordings sounded like they didn't even look at other vendors and they ONLY were interested in L3 Harris, which is NOT a surprise.

 

[seagravebuff60]

Of course NY state has to be one of the very few states now a days that did NOT do an actual state-wide P25 system like MOST of the other states did. I don't know how many exactly that did do an actual state wide P25 system but It seems like most have by this point. But then again NY state also do the weird thing that NY State Police are dispatch by the counties (minus the Thruway that does their own) which I never understood why when practically every other state their State police does their own dispatching and the counties do their own (meaning the counties and state police coordinate together when needed instead of the counties doing it for them meaning state police).

Very true. NYS is 20-40 Years behind. No surprise there. And yeah, it is one of the very few on that list. The only other states that have a proper statewide system in the area are CT, NJ, and PA. There are a number of other states, too, but NY is far behind. I get that the geographical size of NY State might be an issue, but other states of similar size, like PA, IL, or even CO, have accomplished it.

But then again NY state also do the weird thing that NY State Police are dispatch by the counties (minus the Thruway that does their own) which I never understood why when practically every other state their State police does their own dispatching and the counties do their own (meaning the counties and state police coordinate together when needed instead of the counties doing it for them meaning state police).

In Troop K, territory dispatching is done by NYSP and supplemented by the county dispatch in Zones 1 and 2. In Zone 3, it is done 100% by NYSP "TMC" in Hawthorne. They are also one of the Primary PSAPs in Westchester. I think Troops F and L also have a similar setup where NYSP handles the dispatching and is supplemented by the county. I can't speak for the rest of the state, but I think each troop operates differently.

Thruway is different from all other troops in how they identify on the radio. And yes, I believe they dispatch the entire Thruway from their HQ in Albany.

 

[murse_joe]

I don't blame the different regions for doing their own thing. New York is a big state and has a lot of different areas. What you need from State Police is very different in White Plains vs the north country. Why not use a Westchester system when you're down there and a Central NY system when you're up there? Seems like kind of a waste to then build your own entirely new system too.

Unless they're trying to build it robust enough to have a bunch of different agencies like the NJICS

 

[seagravebuff60]

I don't blame the different regions for doing their own thing. New York is a big state and has a lot of different areas. What you need from State Police is very different in White Plains vs the north country. Why not use a Westchester system when you're down there and a Central NY system when you're up there? Seems like kind of a waste to then build your own entirely new system too.

Unless they're trying to build it robust enough to have a bunch of different agencies like the NJICS

I doubt this new Harris system for the Thruway will allow other agencies besides those who work and parol the mainline Thruway and the spur routes. It seems that just like the MTA/MRRS system, this system will be designed for specific coverage immediately around the thruway and nothing else. It is not true, "Statewide," as the article portrays.

Just an FYI, what I mean by a true statewide system is a P25 System that can mostly blanket the whole state with coverage and allow multiple users on the system, not just the state entities. Systems like NJICS in NJ (as you mentioned), CLMRN in CT, and Starcom in IL are perfect examples of this, and many more.