Thruway progress
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New York State Thruway Authority Troop-T New York Division desperately needs a new radio system as so many dead zones and they have been on 453.425/453.525 for decades.
I was wonderin what freqs they are using. Thanks!
I see the projected in-service date is now January 2028.
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They definitely need it sooner.
It seems like 2028 is going to be here before we know it, but we all know that they probably will have some delays.
I have never, ever, not once, seen any of these projected TRS in-service dates meet their goal.
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Or even digital conventional transitions, simple ones.
Apples and oranges. I've seen plenty of conventional analog>digital migrations go very quickly and smoothly, as in almost all cases the site(s) are already built out and it's a matter of replacing/upgrading infrastructure and maybe subscribers. Trunked systems, almost all of which are multi-site, have so many moving parts and often the sites are not owned or leased by the agency building out the system. Most of the time it's issues with procuring those sites that introduces delays into the project, some of them being insurmountable and requiring re-engineering of alternate sites. Not to mention FCC coordination and licensing, especially if you're anywhere near Canada.
I wish the NYSTA the best of luck with this massive endeavor, and if by some miracle they are able to get on the air by early 2028 even in just one zone, that would be impressive. Two years goes by very quickly.
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I have heard that dealing with Canada and getting new frequencies is extremely time consuming and that part alone causes delays for months. I do hope they meet their goal as well! It looks like from the documentation they are doing ok so far, I mean they already have gotten the radios, starting to program them.
Purchasing the infrastructure and subscribers is the easiest part of the process once you have the money budgeted for it. I've known agencies that had the entire trunked system in a warehouse for 3+ years waiting for the sites to install all the repeaters at. Crazy.
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That is crazy!
looks like they have their frequencies......
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I know this.................................. Couldn't you tell that I said "It looks like from the documentation they are doing ok so far" meaning I DID LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT! We were talking in general about US and Canada border issues not just NYSTA.
That is only one of 18 licenses for the system. Their FCC filing stated "Site locations, site leases and antenna heights
are still being finalized for some sites". If any site parameters change the amended application has to go back for Canadian concurrence if the site is north of Line A.
Sometimes it is one to two years dealing with our friends to the north.
When it comes to 700/800MHz and Canada, that is easy. For the most part it is all predetermined or at least there is a determinate process. VHF/UHF is a completely different animal as the existing treaty is not determinative, its basically judgement based, additionally the band plans do not align between the countries.
