Thruway progress

[chrismol1]

If you're interested in the build out of the new thruway system, here is the few pages of an attachment filed in request of extended implementation detailing their proposed schedule and progress

 

[Bob1955]

New York State Thruway Authority Troop-T New York Division desperately needs a new radio system as so many dead zones and they have been on 453.425/453.525 for decades.

 

[62Truck]

New York State Thruway Authority Troop-T New York Division desperately needs a new radio system as so many dead zones and they have been on 453.425/453.525 for decades.

I was wonderin what freqs they are using. Thanks!

 

[k2hz]

If you're interested in the build out of the new thruway system, here is the few pages of an attachment filed in request of extended implementation detailing their proposed schedule and progress

I see the projected in-service date is now January 2028.

 

[Joshuascanner2021]

If you're interested in the build out of the new thruway system, here is the few pages of an attachment filed in request of extended implementation detailing their proposed schedule and progress

They definitely need it sooner.

I see the projected in-service date is now January 2028.

It seems like 2028 is going to be here before we know it, but we all know that they probably will have some delays.

 

[GTR8000]

I see the projected in-service date is now January 2028.

I have never, ever, not once, seen any of these projected TRS in-service dates meet their goal.

 

[Joshuascanner2021]

I have never, ever, not once, seen any of these projected TRS in-service dates meet their goal.

Or even digital conventional transitions, simple ones.

 

[GTR8000]

Or even digital conventional transitions, simple ones.

Apples and oranges. I've seen plenty of conventional analog>digital migrations go very quickly and smoothly, as in almost all cases the site(s) are already built out and it's a matter of replacing/upgrading infrastructure and maybe subscribers. Trunked systems, almost all of which are multi-site, have so many moving parts and often the sites are not owned or leased by the agency building out the system. Most of the time it's issues with procuring those sites that introduces delays into the project, some of them being insurmountable and requiring re-engineering of alternate sites. Not to mention FCC coordination and licensing, especially if you're anywhere near Canada.

I wish the NYSTA the best of luck with this massive endeavor, and if by some miracle they are able to get on the air by early 2028 even in just one zone, that would be impressive. Two years goes by very quickly.

 

[Joshuascanner2021]

Apples and oranges. I've seen plenty of conventional analog>digital migrations go very quickly and smoothly, as in almost all cases the site(s) are already built out and it's a matter of replacing/upgrading infrastructure and maybe subscribers. Trunked systems, almost all of which are multi-site, have so many moving parts and often the sites are not owned or leased by the agency building out the system. Most of the time it's issues with procuring those sites that introduces delays into the project, some of them being insurmountable and requiring re-engineering of alternate sites. Not to mention FCC coordination and licensing, especially if you're anywhere near Canada.

I wish the NYSTA the best of luck with this massive endeavor, and if by some miracle they are able to get on the air by early 2028 even in just one zone, that would be impressive. Two years goes by very quickly.

I have heard that dealing with Canada and getting new frequencies is extremely time consuming and that part alone causes delays for months. I do hope they meet their goal as well! It looks like from the documentation they are doing ok so far, I mean they already have gotten the radios, starting to program them.

 

[GTR8000]

Purchasing the infrastructure and subscribers is the easiest part of the process once you have the money budgeted for it. I've known agencies that had the entire trunked system in a warehouse for 3+ years waiting for the sites to install all the repeaters at. Crazy.

 

[Joshuascanner2021]

Purchasing the infrastructure and subscribers is the easiest part of the process once you have the money budgeted for it. I've known agencies that had the entire trunked system in a warehouse for 3+ years waiting for the sites to install all the repeaters at. Crazy.

That is crazy!

 

[lkas]

I have heard that dealing with Canada and getting new frequencies is extremely time consuming and that part alone causes delays for months. I do hope they meet their goal as well! It looks like from the documentation they are doing ok so far, I mean they already have gotten the radios, starting to program them.

looks like they have their frequencies......

https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/licenseFreqSum.jsp?licKey=5113977

 

[Joshuascanner2021]

looks like they have their frequencies......

https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/licenseFreqSum.jsp?licKey=5113977

I know this.................................. Couldn't you tell that I said "It looks like from the documentation they are doing ok so far" meaning I DID LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT! We were talking in general about US and Canada border issues not just NYSTA.

 

[k2hz]

looks like they have their frequencies......

https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/licenseFreqSum.jsp?licKey=5113977

That is only one of 18 licenses for the system. Their FCC filing stated "Site locations, site leases and antenna heights
are still being finalized for some sites". If any site parameters change the amended application has to go back for Canadian concurrence if the site is north of Line A.

 

[58006]

I have heard that dealing with Canada and getting new frequencies is extremely time consuming and that part alone causes delays for months. I do hope they meet their goal as well! It looks like from the documentation they are doing ok so far, I mean they already have gotten the radios, starting to program them.

Sometimes it is one to two years dealing with our friends to the north.

 

[studgeman]

When it comes to 700/800MHz and Canada, that is easy. For the most part it is all predetermined or at least there is a determinate process. VHF/UHF is a completely different animal as the existing treaty is not determinative, its basically judgement based, additionally the band plans do not align between the countries.

 

[seagravebuff60]

Is it just me, or does that sheet not list any FCC Licenses south of New Windsor? There are still about 60 miles to go, not including the GSP Connector, Cross Westchester, and I-95.

Or have those licenses not been granted yet?

 

[Joshuascanner2021]

Is it just me, or does that sheet not list any FCC Licenses south of New Windsor? There are still about 60 miles to go, not including the GSP Connector, Cross Westchester, and I-95.

Or have those licenses not been granted yet?

It looks like they still have a little ways to go yet to get all the licenses they need take a look.... It says "82%", less and 20% left, makes sense. I did check the FCC website and I did not see any pending licenses yet for anything in that area, I am only seeing all the licenses for what is listed on the public notice that we can all see. It doesn't mean no action taken yet though, the FCC is slow.

 

[GTR8000]

The 700 MHz frequencies for the sites south of New Windsor still need to be approved by Region 8 before they can apply for FCC licenses. All of that is in the process.