Thanks, I appreciate the information. Now for the next question, I’m fairly tech savvy but how much trouble is this to program into the scanner or is it already in the database? I’ve got a BCD436HP
TMR in Newfoundland
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BC_Scan
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Then you will have no trouble appending Sentinel to add this to the scanner if you have updated the database and relevant info is in there.
If it were me, only add the towers your scanner can hear (depending on your antenna setup) otherwise scanner will look for control channel that isn't there (WOT)
The other curious question is; How come that system is not already in your scanner ?
Honestly, because I haven’t updated the database in a while. I only needed access to certain frequencies but now that the changeover is eminent, I wasn’t sure how to access the new system. I’ve just updated my database and will do so on the scanner shortly. I may have more questions lol but I really do appreciate the help.
Well it's been 6 months with no new information. The few talkgroups submitted to the database back in August 2023 seem to be all encrypted.
Any locals have any updates?
Any locals have any updates?
VO1IV
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After a years worth of 24 hour monitoring this is what I have logged with SDR Trunk, and listening to the Quidi Vidi & Red Cliff sites.
RCMP DIV "B" Radio Shop on Common 1, 509.
JRCC HALIFAX on 37000.
Local testing on Interop 12, 23111.
Encrypted Voice on 23107 day of Regatta 2023 (NL INTEROP "7").
Encrypted Voice on 21101 Maritime Law Interop 2.
I have received all these talk groups in the past 12 months:
ENCRYPTED 1
DATA 167
ENCRYPTED 547
ENCRYPTED 548
ENCRYPTED 3838
ENCRYPTED 11114
DATA 22692 DATA REQUEST DATA / VOICE MIXED MODE ?
ENCRYPTED 22692
ENCRYPTED 23171
ENCRYPTED 23300
ENCRYPTED 23301
ENCRYPTED 23305
ENCRYPTED 23350
ENCRYPTED 23351
ENCRYPTED 23355
ENCRYPTED 23365
ENCRYPTED 23366
ENCRYPTED 23373
ENCRYPTED 23387
ENCRYPTED 23397
ENCRYPTED 23399
ENCRYPTED 23400
ENCRYPTED 23402
ENCRYPTED 23405
ENCRYPTED 23422
ENCRYPTED 23426
ENCRYPTED 23428
ENCRYPTED 23429
ENCRYPTED 23431
ENCRYPTED 23433
ENCRYPTED 23439
ENCRYPTED 23444
ENCRYPTED 23452
ENCRYPTED 23454
ENCRYPTED 23460
ENCRYPTED 23465
ENCRYPTED 23468
ENCRYPTED 23600
ENCRYPTED 23601
ENCRYPTED 23602
ENCRYPTED 23603
ENCRYPTED 23604
ENCRYPTED 23605
ENCRYPTED 23607
ENCRYPTED 23616
ENCRYPTED 23617
ENCRYPTED 23618
ENCRYPTED 23619
ENCRYPTED 23620
ENCRYPTED 23621
ENCRYPTED 23622
ENCRYPTED 23623
ENCRYPTED 23624
ENCRYPTED 23625
ENCRYPTED 23626
ENCRYPTED 23627
ENCRYPTED 23628
ENCRYPTED 23629
ENCRYPTED 23630
ENCRYPTED 23631
ENCRYPTED 23700
ENCRYPTED 23701
ENCRYPTED 23705
ENCRYPTED 23802
ENCRYPTED 23803
ENCRYPTED 23810
ENCRYPTED 23811
ENCRYPTED 23821
ENCRYPTED 23839
DIGITAL CLEAR 24170, unknown use, nothing but open air in .wav recording
ENCRYPTED 25000
ENCRYPTED 25001
ENCRYPTED 25002
ENCRYPTED 25003
ENCRYPTED 25004
ENCRYPTED 25006
ENCRYPTED 25012
ENCRYPTED 25017
ENCRYPTED 25019
ENCRYPTED 25020
ENCRYPTED 25022
ENCRYPTED 25026
ENCRYPTED 25027
ENCRYPTED 25028
ENCRYPTED 25031
ENCRYPTED 25037
ENCRYPTED 25038
ENCRYPTED 25310
ENCRYPTED 25500
ENCRYPTED 25503
ENCRYPTED 25503
ENCRYPTED 25505
ENCRYPTED 25508
ENCRYPTED 25509
ENCRYPTED 25514
ENCRYPTED 25515
ENCRYPTED 25516
ENCRYPTED 25517
ENCRYPTED 25518
ENCRYPTED 25519
ENCRYPTED 25520
ENCRYPTED 25522
ENCRYPTED 25600
ENCRYPTED 25601
? 28292
DATA 65535 DATA REQUEST ?
DIGITAL CLEAR 64211 CAF?
Eastern Health Ambulance Dispatch Operations on 164.250 in St. John's has gone quiet. Around that time, encrypted talk group 23402 had a huge increase in traffic. I am assuming that 23402 is the dispatch talk group, however that is UNCONFIRMED.
Eastern Health Emergency Room patch on 149.410 to various hospitals sits quiet, unless a unit outside St. John's is transporting to one of the three hospitals inside the city. I am assuming Eastern Health Ambulances are using 1/2/3/4 different talk groups for reporting now.
St John's Regional Fire Department is still apparently making the switch to P25. That is just word of mouth and I have no more information at this time
Thanks 73!
Aaron
VO1IV
RCMP DIV "B" Radio Shop on Common 1, 509.
JRCC HALIFAX on 37000.
Local testing on Interop 12, 23111.
Encrypted Voice on 23107 day of Regatta 2023 (NL INTEROP "7").
Encrypted Voice on 21101 Maritime Law Interop 2.
I have received all these talk groups in the past 12 months:
ENCRYPTED 1
DATA 167
ENCRYPTED 547
ENCRYPTED 548
ENCRYPTED 3838
ENCRYPTED 11114
DATA 22692 DATA REQUEST DATA / VOICE MIXED MODE ?
ENCRYPTED 22692
ENCRYPTED 23171
ENCRYPTED 23300
ENCRYPTED 23301
ENCRYPTED 23305
ENCRYPTED 23350
ENCRYPTED 23351
ENCRYPTED 23355
ENCRYPTED 23365
ENCRYPTED 23366
ENCRYPTED 23373
ENCRYPTED 23387
ENCRYPTED 23397
ENCRYPTED 23399
ENCRYPTED 23400
ENCRYPTED 23402
ENCRYPTED 23405
ENCRYPTED 23422
ENCRYPTED 23426
ENCRYPTED 23428
ENCRYPTED 23429
ENCRYPTED 23431
ENCRYPTED 23433
ENCRYPTED 23439
ENCRYPTED 23444
ENCRYPTED 23452
ENCRYPTED 23454
ENCRYPTED 23460
ENCRYPTED 23465
ENCRYPTED 23468
ENCRYPTED 23600
ENCRYPTED 23601
ENCRYPTED 23602
ENCRYPTED 23603
ENCRYPTED 23604
ENCRYPTED 23605
ENCRYPTED 23607
ENCRYPTED 23616
ENCRYPTED 23617
ENCRYPTED 23618
ENCRYPTED 23619
ENCRYPTED 23620
ENCRYPTED 23621
ENCRYPTED 23622
ENCRYPTED 23623
ENCRYPTED 23624
ENCRYPTED 23625
ENCRYPTED 23626
ENCRYPTED 23627
ENCRYPTED 23628
ENCRYPTED 23629
ENCRYPTED 23630
ENCRYPTED 23631
ENCRYPTED 23700
ENCRYPTED 23701
ENCRYPTED 23705
ENCRYPTED 23802
ENCRYPTED 23803
ENCRYPTED 23810
ENCRYPTED 23811
ENCRYPTED 23821
ENCRYPTED 23839
DIGITAL CLEAR 24170, unknown use, nothing but open air in .wav recording
ENCRYPTED 25000
ENCRYPTED 25001
ENCRYPTED 25002
ENCRYPTED 25003
ENCRYPTED 25004
ENCRYPTED 25006
ENCRYPTED 25012
ENCRYPTED 25017
ENCRYPTED 25019
ENCRYPTED 25020
ENCRYPTED 25022
ENCRYPTED 25026
ENCRYPTED 25027
ENCRYPTED 25028
ENCRYPTED 25031
ENCRYPTED 25037
ENCRYPTED 25038
ENCRYPTED 25310
ENCRYPTED 25500
ENCRYPTED 25503
ENCRYPTED 25503
ENCRYPTED 25505
ENCRYPTED 25508
ENCRYPTED 25509
ENCRYPTED 25514
ENCRYPTED 25515
ENCRYPTED 25516
ENCRYPTED 25517
ENCRYPTED 25518
ENCRYPTED 25519
ENCRYPTED 25520
ENCRYPTED 25522
ENCRYPTED 25600
ENCRYPTED 25601
? 28292
DATA 65535 DATA REQUEST ?
DIGITAL CLEAR 64211 CAF?
Eastern Health Ambulance Dispatch Operations on 164.250 in St. John's has gone quiet. Around that time, encrypted talk group 23402 had a huge increase in traffic. I am assuming that 23402 is the dispatch talk group, however that is UNCONFIRMED.
Eastern Health Emergency Room patch on 149.410 to various hospitals sits quiet, unless a unit outside St. John's is transporting to one of the three hospitals inside the city. I am assuming Eastern Health Ambulances are using 1/2/3/4 different talk groups for reporting now.
St John's Regional Fire Department is still apparently making the switch to P25. That is just word of mouth and I have no more information at this time
Thanks 73!
Aaron
VO1IV
So is it safe to say that all P25 systems in Newfoundland are encrypted? (Police, EMS, etc.) Also are taxi's in St, John's on a P25 system also? Thanks for all the info posted it helps out a lot.
Using a SDS100.
ve1sef
Member
Just wondering if everything has move from the EDACS system to MPSRN?
Thanks to some strong troposphere ducting just after midnight, I heard a Zone 3 control channel from south-east N.B. (3-096 772.13125).
Using Pro96Com to look at Adjacent Site Information I found:
Using Pro96Com to look at Adjacent Site Information I found:
- 3-101 771.78125
- 3-102 772.04375
- 3-111 769.11875
- 3-112 772.09375
- 3-097 769.29375 Probably from the "Port aux Basques" area.
VO1IV
Member
Hello Everyone, just a quick update.
Since the St. John's Regional Fire Department has moved to P25, I have noticed a HUGE increase in encrypted voice traffic on TG 25750. I cannot confirm that this is the talk group for SJRFD, however this TGID was non existent before the switch. Since the day that they have switched to P25, this talk group has almost been constantly active.
Also, today I heard clear voice traffic on talk group 24053. Talked about filling potholes with the "asphalt truck" on the highway near Avondale. Sounds like department of highways (?)
Has anyone else heard anything interesting on the P25 network here in Newfoundland?
73
Since the St. John's Regional Fire Department has moved to P25, I have noticed a HUGE increase in encrypted voice traffic on TG 25750. I cannot confirm that this is the talk group for SJRFD, however this TGID was non existent before the switch. Since the day that they have switched to P25, this talk group has almost been constantly active.
Also, today I heard clear voice traffic on talk group 24053. Talked about filling potholes with the "asphalt truck" on the highway near Avondale. Sounds like department of highways (?)
Has anyone else heard anything interesting on the P25 network here in Newfoundland?
73
VO1IV
Member
Another P25 update here from VO1. For the past two days a new agency has been operating in the clear. Mostly talking about how the new radio system sounds great and that it is a bit to get used too. The talk group number is 24072.....
Does anyone have any ideas on how to go about figuring out the agency that is using the talkgroup? Would an access to information request submitted to bell radio get me anywhere, or would it be ignored?
~the listening continues~
Does anyone have any ideas on how to go about figuring out the agency that is using the talkgroup? Would an access to information request submitted to bell radio get me anywhere, or would it be ignored?
~the listening continues~
I wouldn't hold your breath on getting info out of anyone, especially Bell. If you got some friends that use the system in any capacity they may be more help.
Keep listening, track radio ID's if you have the capability to see if they bounce around to different talkgroups. May help determine who it is you're listening to.
I would bet most if not all public safety are encrypted.
VO1IV
Member
From the watertower in Galway (St. Johns, NFLD) I received:
771.14375 0687H - 0331 with a NAC of 681. This control channel is only registered to Notre Dame Junction or Queens Cove. More research is needed. The Trepassey site uses this control channel as well, however with a different site ID and NAC
772.08125 0687H - 0329 NAC 689. I believe this site to be Chance Cove
771.14375 0687H - 0331 with a NAC of 681. This control channel is only registered to Notre Dame Junction or Queens Cove. More research is needed. The Trepassey site uses this control channel as well, however with a different site ID and NAC
772.08125 0687H - 0329 NAC 689. I believe this site to be Chance Cove
VO1IV
Member
Received today on SJRFD 1, 170.205.
"Attention attention, this is St. Johns Dispatch. We are signing off from the analogue system, Kenmount and Shea towers, for the last time. Thank You"
I guess the analogue system is being dismantled and going silent for good.
"Attention attention, this is St. Johns Dispatch. We are signing off from the analogue system, Kenmount and Shea towers, for the last time. Thank You"
I guess the analogue system is being dismantled and going silent for good.
VO1IV
Member
Hello everyone.
Recently there has been traffic on 24051, 24052 and 24053. They all sound like highway plows, loaders and salters. All three talk groups seem to cover areas of roads, and they all seem to use "the clover-leaf exchange" just before paddy's pond as a starting point.
24051 for the CBS highway, Foxtrap, Butterpot park and this side of the Holyrood roundabout. I am unsure as to what I should label this talk group as, so I am going to label it as "CBS Hw / TCH snowclearing"
24052 Covers Galway, Goulds, Bay Bulls, big pond and witless bay. With the information I have, I am going to label this talk group as "Irish loop east snowclearing"
24053 Covers Bauline, Torbay, Portugal Cove, Saint Phillips, Flatrock, Logy Bay, Middle Cove, Outer cove and Pouch Cove. I am going to label this talk group as "Killick Coast snowclearing"
Recently there has been traffic on 24051, 24052 and 24053. They all sound like highway plows, loaders and salters. All three talk groups seem to cover areas of roads, and they all seem to use "the clover-leaf exchange" just before paddy's pond as a starting point.
24051 for the CBS highway, Foxtrap, Butterpot park and this side of the Holyrood roundabout. I am unsure as to what I should label this talk group as, so I am going to label it as "CBS Hw / TCH snowclearing"
24052 Covers Galway, Goulds, Bay Bulls, big pond and witless bay. With the information I have, I am going to label this talk group as "Irish loop east snowclearing"
24053 Covers Bauline, Torbay, Portugal Cove, Saint Phillips, Flatrock, Logy Bay, Middle Cove, Outer cove and Pouch Cove. I am going to label this talk group as "Killick Coast snowclearing"
VO1IV
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This is a very rough outline as to what I believe to be the areas covered under each talkgroup. Feel free to adjust or change this in any way you see fit. The more information we have put together the better.
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