TMR in Newfoundland

[VO1IV]

(Submission sent to RR)

All received with a Uniden BCD436HP.
Atlantic Provinces Public Safety Network:

These two sites are in the database with the same site information due to an error
3 (3) 015 (F) Saint Joseph's Avalon Peninsula, NL 770.61875c 770.86875c 771.11875 771.36875
3 (3) 015 (F) New Chelsea Avalon Peninsula, NL 770.61875c 770.86875c 771.11875 771.36875

I have confirmed the New Chelsea site as System ID 00687h-003, Site ID 024, WACN BEE00h and NAC 684. 770.61875

Other new sites have been found as well. All system Id's 00687h-003, all WACN BEE00h

Summerville, Site 046, NAC 686, 769.30625
Bonavista, Site 047, NAC 687, 770.53125
Clarenville, Site 028, NAC 688, 770.65625
Queens Cove, Site 031, NAC 681, 771.14375
Trinity Bay North, Site 048, NAC 688, 771.85625
Port Rexton, Site 070, NAC 680, 772.09375

 

[VO1IV]

Radio ID 771528, 771509, 771007, 771004, 771001 and 771000 have all been talking on tg 26550, CBSA NB OPS 1 64132, Interop 2 23101 and PEOC 2 23113.

Radio ID 771528 has been heard identifying as "PRCO 1". I believe this to be CBSA due to traffic on CBSA NB OPS 1 64132.
Where all these radios have been talking on 26550, I believe talk group 26550 to be CBSA NL Ops 1.

More to follow.

 

[RadioDitch]

Licenses in the 769-802MHz range for Government of Newfoundland & Labrador c/o Bell Mobility for 8K10F1WDT emissions (P25) have begun appearing in the Labrador City and Wabush area.
It would be a safe assumption this is likely part of the TMR expansion project into NL. It is also notable given RNC in Labrador City did recently receive new radios, though I'm unaware of the model.

Same applies for Churchill Falls, which is now showing licenses. Nothing between Labrador City and Churchill Falls, however where RNC normally uses Iridium satellite PTT.

Labrador City, Lab. - License 011011217-001
Government of Newfoundland and Labrador, Care of Bell Radio Mobility
52.958333,-66.934722 (Round Hill)
TX:

• 771.16875
• 771.41875
• 771.66875
• 800.66875
• 800.91875
• 801.16875
• 801.41875
• 801.66875

RX:

• 770.66875
• 800.66875

Wabush, Lab. - License 011022189-001
Government of Newfoundland and Labrador, Care of Bell Radio Mobility
52.907861,-66.868778 (Bond Ave & Whiteway Dr)

TX:

• 769.29375
• 769.54375
• 769.79375
• 770.04375
• 770.29375
• 799.29375
• 799.54375
• 799.79375
• 800.04375

RX:

• 799.29375
• 800.29375

Churchill Falls, Lab. - License 011022705-001
Government of Newfoundland and Labrador, Care of Bell Radio Mobility
53.528667,-64.016111 (Ressegieu Drive)

TX:

• 770.58125
• 770.83125
• 771.08125
• 771.33125
• 800.58125
• 800.83125
• 801.08125
• 801.33125

RX:

• 771.33125
• 770.58125

Again, it's an assumption this is related to TMR expansion. However, I can honestly say there is no other reason these P25 8K10F1WDT licenses would exist in the region. And again RNC Labrador City did receive new radios.

• I am not currently in the area to check their status.

 

[RadioDitch]

Additional new licenses matching the parameters of the TMR now showing in the TAFL.

Government of Newfoundland & Labrador c/o Bell Mobility for 8K10F1WDT emissions (P25).

Newfoundland:
Flowers Cove - 51.303889,-56.725278

Labrador:
Dome Mountain (Happy Valley-Goose Bay) - 53.295806, -60.539306
Happy Valley-Goose Bay - 53.295806, -60.539306
Hopedale - 55.464444,-60.240833
Makkovik - 55.076944,-59.186389
Nain - 56.546944,-61.7125
Natuashish - 55.924722,-61.680278
North West River - 53.516667, -60.146667
Postville - 54.906944,-59.796111
Rigolet - 54.180000, -58.428222

 

[tordekk111]

So, what if anything, is still scannable now that most things have moved over?

I noticed the old forestry frequencies have gone mostly quiet, at least for me.

 

[SebbyThePickle]

So, what if anything, is still scannable now that most things have moved over?

I noticed the old forestry frequencies have gone mostly quiet, at least for me.

I think for now just NLTI? There's not much on the database even for departments we know that have moved over so I'm assuming they're starting with encrypted talk groups instead of eventually having to upgrade.
The system at one point or another is supposed to go full encrypted like in B.C. (at least that was the plan at the start) so it would make sense. There's really not enough documentation on which talk groups are used in the province so I'd honestly work on identifying tgids first.

 

[RadioDitch]

The techs are currently up on Round Hill at the site in Labrador City working on establishing the site. No sign of life yet however beyond the licenses.

 

[syberius25]

Update on APPSN P25 talkgroups for Newfoundland department of highways:

Talk Group 24058 seems to cover from Bay Roberts to Carbonear. It also covers the New Harbour Barrens, from the end of route 73, till it connects back up to route 75 in Spanyards Bay. I am going to name this Carbonear / Bay Roberts Area

Talk Group 24059 Has been used in Greens Harbour, Trinity Bay.

Talk Group 24064 seems to cover from where the Holyrood roundabout meets with the end of TG24051's coverage area to the end of route 60 in South River. It also covers from the Trans Canada route 70 turnoff, north till Bay Roberts. It also covers from the Trans Canada Highway route 71 turnoff, north till South River. I am unsure what to call this area so I am going to label it as "Colliers & Area" because Colliers is in the middle of the coverage map I have made for this talk group.

Talk group 24067 seems to cover from the Saint Josephs area to the Trans Canada Highway turnoff (to the north) Because of this, I am assuming that this talk group is "Irish Loop West"

Talk group 24072 Seems to cover the Terra Nova Park area. Most of the traffic has been from Arnolds Cove to Traytown, and from Clarenville up to Bonavista. Because of this, I am calling this talk group "Terra Nova Park"

Talk Group 24075 seems to cover the Marystown Area, from Winterland to Marystown, and from Marystown down to Black Brook. I am calling this talk group "Burin Pennisula North"

Talk Group 24076 Seems to cover the St. Lawrence area, from St. Lawrence to Lamaline. I am calling this talk group "Burin Pennisula South"

As always, more monitoring is needed. I am open to naming suggestions and help. 73 de Aaron VO1IV

Sorry new guy here, is there a way to enter the talk groups ie "24067" into DSD Fast Lane instead of a frequency

 

[VO1IV]

Sorry new guy here, is there a way to enter the talk groups ie "24067" into DSD Fast Lane instead of a frequency

Hey,

What I use is called SDRTrunk. I find it better than DSD. I played with DSD for a while, but always found it would drop decoded packets and was a bit clunky to run, at least on my PC. With SDRTrunk you can make alias lists, talk groups, and a bunch of other stuff. Also record any of the clear traffic.

 

[VO1IV]

New Talkgroup information for NL Department of Highways:

24095:
Covers an area of Pool's Cove, Saint Jacques, English Harbour west, This is in the "Coast of Bays" region. There is two highway depots in this area (identified with radio ID numbers 509036 Pool's Cove base, and 509049 Saint Jacques base. I am going to call this talkgroup "Coast of Bays DPW"

 

[VO1IV]

(Submission sent to RR)

Two new sites for APPSN in Newfoundland.

Sunnyside NL, 773.03125. Nac680, site 30, Sysid 687h RFSS 003

Saint Bernard's - Jacques Fontaine. 866.0875, nac 680, site 50, sys 687h, RFSS 003

 

[Deziel0495]

Saint Bernard's - Jacques Fontaine. 866.0875, nac 680, site 50, sys 687h, RFSS 003

This is odd but it matches the license. TAFL Search Results

This is the first site in the whole system I've seen to not use the standard 769-774 MHz. For NS, NB, and PEI the 866/867 range is used mainly for simplex and/or DVRS operations.