Towns Joining CLMRN or Just Noise?
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sefrischling
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I would not say CLMRN is spotty in and around Waterford. I have a G5 pager on most of the day driving around the area, and I hit very few deadspots and those spots are very small in footprint. While my G5 pager may go out of range in some limited areas, actual CLMRN portables rarely if ever, hit a dead spot in the same place my G5 goes dead. DEEP uses the state system every day along the shoreline in Waterford, and CSP uses it all day on 95 and 395.
What are you using to monitor CLMRN that you find it spotty in Waterford? I am in Wtfd every day and live next door, so I am curious what you are experiencing that I am not.
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It's my understanding that New London will be switching over to CLMRN followed by Waterford switching over to CLMRN as a sub system.
Does anyone have an updated time frame as to when this may happen?
Dennis
sefrischling
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There is no timeframe at this time.
They did switch to Kenwood / Viking radios for compatibility to CLMRN, as Harris will not be added to the system.
When you say sub system are you saying in a way that the waterford trunking network will just really become part of the state system? Meaning that the toop-e simulcast would be-able to be picked up on the waterford system? it sounds like if they were to do it that way Waterford would have to lease there site to the state of CT, which would actually work out bigtime for the town
All depends on the agreement between the state and city. It could be a subsystem similar to Bridgeport or Stamford or could be ISSI similar to Middletown or Wallingford. It also could become part of E Simulcast although I don't see that as a likely scenario.
Typically, municipalities do not charge the state for tower access and vice versa.
I suspect that the new budget year will move the projects along.
Typically, municipalities do not charge the state for tower access and vice versa.
I suspect that the new budget year will move the projects along.
and the waterford system did have a problem today, I am not really sure on the details but both NL and Waterford were restricted to piority traffic only so no idea what happened but they did have an issue did not affect EL as we still are primarily on the towns VHF repeater system
sefrischling
Public Information Officer
East Lyme is 100% on VHF. East Lyme is NOT a user of the of the Waterford System. East Lyme is simulcast by Station W on the Waterford TRS to make mutual aid communications easier. The only true users of the Waterford System are Waterford and New London.
i have been around and worked on a few VHF system but East Lyme's sounds terrible. Scratchy low audio
its a standard VHF repeater, back in the day they were on 33.020 low band, Dispatch at that point was up near Flanders FD but I am not sure where the actual low band site was, if your familiar with freq propagation below 50Mhz it can be strange to say the least, so yes while analog VHF repeater might be a bit outdated for law enforcement communications its allot better than what the town had, When I briefly moved out of EL for a few years was when they made the change somewhere around 2015? for some reason when EL made a communications upgrade a VHF repeater system was it but I do think in the long run in was a temporary fix
It's CLMRN., and my experience says otherwise.
Honestly when I am down there, I notice very few dead spots on my 536HP, which is not a Simulcast capable scanner in my vehicle. So I agree with sefrischling that the coverage is fine there.
Everyone is splitting hairs and I possibly more than likely misstated what I meant to say, the system works fine in East Lyme in my section of Niantic Site 27 tends to work better then Site 26, That being said on my desk in the G4 in the amplified speaker tends to prefer site 27 but will multiple times a day jump to 26, when I take the Unication Mobile its normally on 27 till i get north of society road then ill be on 26 all the way to Lisbon, I have a knob on the uniction set to listen to only site 26, even on the unication site 26 still can come in with not a great digital signal, so I would like to restate what I may have incorrectly said the state system work great I would prefer at my home base to get a better signal off of site 26 so i can hear more local FD traffic site 27 will allow me to hear all state wide traffic in SE CT the unication being a commercial product and being programmed correctly reiterates that in Niantic if the town of East Lyme were to go on the state system more then likely I will have no problem hearing town PD or FD on site 27
sefrischling
Public Information Officer
The Town of East Lyme will not be on CLMRM for a number of years at this point. The decision was made, with the shift to te new dispatch center, to stay on VHF at this time. I use a Unication G5 daily to monitor specific TGs, due to being a member of two fire departments, in two towns that directly neighbour East Lyme, and preferring the situational awareness it affords me. Living in Niantic, 1.11 miles from you, I have never had an issue with my G5 jumping sites and having an issue. Whatever site it lands on is where it is, and I am able to hear what I need to hear with no issue on CLMRN. I use a stock G5 antenna. My unication G3 monitors East Lyme Police and Fire, with a stock antenna, and I have no issues monitoring them anywhere in town.
all it was a programming error with the G4 which to tell you the truth I did somewhat expect, So i reset the radio to Factory made a new profile seems I had too many duplications of the same zones and everything, and the G4 is working as designed I have no problem holding the CSP simulcast now, I have Troop F as back up but since the re-promming all is fine, when I first got the radio I was just to aragont and rushed to programming as if it was a scannner so I relooked everything over and started to understand programming guidlines and its not..........like i said I was arrogent to the point I thought I new what I was doing
I do appreciate all of you for putting up with me, thanks
I do appreciate all of you for putting up with me, thanks
Before they went with there own dispatch they were part of the State trooper program and dispatched by troop E. VHF analog is still a great system but East Lyme system does not sound good. need to have the audio adjusted
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The sound? It can barely be heard in a good part of the town. Audio is the last thing I would worry about.
oh that too.
I think when you have equipment tunned and commercially designed to work on a specific band or have a high-end receiver makes a lot of the difference, just as an example I am a ham radio operator and generally speaking i get better reception and overall results listening on my ham equipment then listening to the same repeater on a scanner, another point when it comes to the CLMS the Ubication G4 blows the SDS200 out of the water when it comes to simulcast distortion and all, I have the SDS200 on the Waterford system, since I am so close to the tower I dont have any problems the Unication its a commercial product that only has and is designed to woik on 700/800 megs, so i think part of the factor is what your using I am useing AOR equipemt wich are commercial grade receivers
The Unication G3 & G5 are dual band. The G3 is VHF/UHF and the G5 is VHF or UHF and 7/800
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