Trouble receiving Riverside City Fire Dept frequencies

[blogan52]

I am the feed provider for City of Riverside Fire Department. I used to be located in the city of Riverside, at the bottom of the western face to Box Springs Mountain where the antennas are located. In July 2022, I moved locations to the other side of Box Springs Mountain on the eastern slope. 'HeyWhatsThat' seems to show strong signal array for my new location, but I am unable to catch the RFD frequencies except for one. I even bought a new discone antenna and installed on the roof, but no change in reception. The antenna has a direct line of sight to the mountain. I am sure I am overlooking something really dumb, but can anyone help me figure out why my reception is so bad?

the frequencies I am trying to receive are

460.575	KQR610	RM	123.0 PL	RIV FD Disp	Dispatch	FMN	Fire Dispatch
460.600	KQR610	RM	97.4 PL	RIV FD Cmd 2	Command 2	FMN	Fire-Talk
460.625	KQR610	RM	123.0 PL	RIV FD Cmd 3	Command 3	FMN	Fire-Talk
453.600	KQR610	M	167.9 PL	RIV FD Tac 4	Tac 4	FMN	Fire-Tac
458.600	KQR610	M	186.2 PL	RIV FD Tac 5	Tac 5	FMN	Fire-Tac
460.125	KQR610	M	210.7 PL	RIV FD Tac 6	Tac 6	FMN	Fire-Tac
465.1125	KQR610	M	233.6 PL	RIV FD Tac 7	Tac 7	FMN	Fire-Tac
460.1125	KQR610	M	103.5 PL	RIV FD CMD2E	Command 2 East	FMN	Fire-Tac
453.425	KQR610	RM	110.9 PL	RIV FD RIC	Rapid Intervention Crew (RIC)	FMN	Fire-Tac
460.0875	KQR610	M	88.5 PL	RIV FD P Rpt	Portable Repeater	FMN	Fire-Talk
154.175	WNVE264	BM	CSQ	RIV FD VHF	VHF link to Ch 2 (Multicast w/ CDF)	FMN	Fire-Talk

The only frequency I am receiving is 460.1125 Command 2 East (CMD2E), but it does not seem to hear any of the dispatch traffic. I am using a BCT15X scanner; the same scanner I used in my previous location.

 

[JethrowJohnson]

Might they be using the Riverside network at all? I looked in the database and there's a trunked network named Riverside with a Box Springs site but none of the talkgroups have been confirmed yet.

 

[blogan52]

Might they be using the Riverside network at all? I looked in the database and there's a trunked network named Riverside with a Box Springs site but none of the talkgroups have been confirmed yet.

Riverside City Fire Department is a different agency from Riverside County Fire Department. The table that I included in my post shows the frequencies used by Riverside City Fire. It is not a trunked system.

 

[JethrowJohnson]

Riverside City Fire Department is a different agency from Riverside County Fire Department. The table that I included in my post shows the frequencies used by Riverside City Fire. It is not a trunked system.

Okay. I thought maybe they could've been using that system sometimes.

 

[blogan52]

Okay. I thought maybe they could've been using that system sometimes.

a friend checked around, and that trunked system belongs to the County of Riverside.... IDK what agency uses it though.

 

[brandon]

Can you hear 460.1125 Command 2 East? Used to work in MoVal and I seem to remember the further east you went, the signal really dropped.

 

[blogan52]

Can you hear 460.1125 Command 2 East? Used to work in MoVal and I seem to remember the further east you went, the signal really dropped.

yes, that is all I can hear.... which doesn't pick up the dispatch traffic.

 

[blogan52]

yes, that is all I can hear.... which doesn't pick up the dispatch traffic.

also, I am less than 2 mi from Box Springs, so not that far east

 

[Eng74]

The antennas could be pointing into the city and not into the outer areas of the city. Just a guess I have only scanned them while passing through. My Mom is in the hospital right now in Moreno Valley.

 

[brcoz]

I can hear some on 460.1125. I am near Perris and Cactus.

 

[brcoz]

I hope your mom gets better Eng74.

 

[blogan52]

I can hear some on 460.1125. I am near Perris and Cactus.

yeah, that is the problem... I am hearing SOME.....but not catching the primary channels, or even all the traffic on 460.1125... very disappointing...

 

[1942LA]

First, I want to thank you for providing the feed. I noticed I wasn't hearing Fire Channel 1 lately.

I'm near the March Air Base right now. I'll do some testing & I'll let you know what I can hear.

 

[blogan52]

First, I want to thank you for providing the feed. I noticed I wasn't hearing Fire Channel 1 lately.

I'm near the March Air Base right now. I'll do some testing & I'll let you know what I can hear.

appreciate it..... if I need to get a better scanner, or different antenna, I will do what I need to do. I am very frustrated at not being able to provide the best quality broadcast....

 

[1942LA]

Glad to help.

I heard one call get toned out over Fire Channel 1 (460.575.) Clear and full bars. I'm in an office @ roughly Van Buren and the 215.

Using an SDS-100 and mini-magnet multi-frequency antenna.

 

[blogan52]

Glad to help.

I heard one call get toned out over Fire Channel 1 (460.575.) Clear and full bars. I'm in an office @ roughly Van Buren and the 215.

Using an SDS-100 and mini-magnet multi-frequency antenna. View attachment 137582

what period of time were you listening? according to PulsePoint, there have been 8 calls dispatched between 9:30 and 10:00 am this morning.

 

[Eng74]

Make sure you didn’t lockout the PL tone.

 

[blogan52]

Make sure you didn’t lockout the PL tone.

How could I have done that? I didn't change anything when moved...that I know of..

 

[Eng74]

Check and make sure the channels did not get locked out. Got to check everything.

 

[blogan52]

Check and make sure the channels did not get locked out. Got to check everything.

wiped the scanner, and started from scratch. only thing on this scanner now are the RFD frequencies.... nothing locked out.... still only getting CMD2E 460.1125