much appreciated robert! thank you
Trump Shooting Coverage
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do you know who/what agencies would be inside this command center?
I would think Secret service would have someone too but not the case huh?
Yes, USSS would have personel in the command post. That's how you get the transfer of the Intel.
What i was saying is radio comms are not generally direct from one group to another. Intel is relayed thru the CP and disseminated across the different comm paths to the groups who need the info. USSS is on their own radio system, PSP is on their own system, and locals are on their own system. Depending on the type of event and local capabilities, there may some linking of certain systems, but not typically to USSS. USSS is a dedicated unit there to protect tge dignitary and works on dedicated channels for that. General site security comms for assisting agencies are not going to be occurring on USSS channels.
What i was saying is radio comms are not generally direct from one group to another. Intel is relayed thru the CP and disseminated across the different comm paths to the groups who need the info. USSS is on their own radio system, PSP is on their own system, and locals are on their own system. Depending on the type of event and local capabilities, there may some linking of certain systems, but not typically to USSS. USSS is a dedicated unit there to protect tge dignitary and works on dedicated channels for that. General site security comms for assisting agencies are not going to be occurring on USSS channels.
NEW: Local Officer Radioed 'Blanket Tactical Channel' About Shooter On Rooftop
On Saturday in Butler, Pennsylvania, a local police officer faced a critical situation when he encountered the gunman on a rooftop aiming at former President
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According to this news article and interview with the town manager, the local police officer who saw the shooter on the roof broadcasted it over a blanket tactical channel. “ The alert was broadcast over a “blanket tactical channel,” ensuring all units were aware of the immediate danger.” In the actual video interview he did state all units “on that Channel” heard it.
It appears the archive is no longer availableThe Butler County Fire 6 group has been active on ICORRS
I've started a public playlist here:
Butler County PA Special Event
Coverage of the Donald Trump political rally shootingwww.broadcastify.com
Let me know if anything needs to be added (on the fire/mutual aid side) from either system
If you want to listen this the non calls feed Butler County Fire and EMS Audio Archives
If you create a playlist on broadcastify , you can add by fire op 6 then get the archive
You have to go archive And down the right times. I know it works because I did the the day of the event. The transmission match what I heard on my G4. In fact I just check again and the clip i dowload listen to call where they informed that Lifeflight 3 and 4 would be landing in the field.
I couldn’t find fire ops 6 archive today. But I found a work around to get to it. I’m doing it on a iPhone, maybe that’s the difference anyway….,Here is the life flight talking to LZ if interested
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From USSS Director's testimony in congress today, during campaigns they use agents from DHS, DOD, and local LEOs, but only give radios to the DHS agents.
She also stated there are no audio recordings of the radio traffic.
That would make sense for USSS radios. Local LE would depend on what local channels they're utilizing. If traffic's on unrecorded tac channels, then no. If it's on recorded talkgroups/channels, then definitely maybe.
She stated sometimes the comms are recorded during events, sometimes they aren't, in this case they were not. It appears that the repeater set up for at least some visits are linked over an IP connection, which could make it possible to send audio to HQ over internet for monitoring or recording.
Setup from VP visit.
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I am sure they had internet access there. With that big fancy communications trailer and an 8 billon dollar budget I would think they can and should record all radio communications. Hell all they needed Was a computer and few instances of proscan running. The radio communications would be essential in this investigation. Maybe Bob can cut a deal with the SS and sell them some licenses. 😀
Recording every USSS transmission would be a huge undertaking. Current president & VP, past presidents, advance teams, buildings like WH, Camp David, regularly visited homes, investigations, surveillance, etc. All the comms, repeater and simplex would need to be linked back to a location to be stored either by sat or internet. Much of the dignitary protection would require multiple duplicates setups and an army of 24/7 personnel to install, operate, maintain and transport all of the equipment.
Would the secret service likely have been on a P25 VHF conventional mobile repeater, which they always bring with them? Or at outdoor events like this do they sometimes only use simplex, maybe with a few base stations at key locations?
Typically always the local repeater, which is over IP rather than RF, as they need to be able to communicate with motorcade to and from airport, hospital (if required), and other locations as needed.
I guess the one thing everyone can agree on is the Secret Service did a stellar job of keeping their own operations super secret, including from other LE agencies.
As others have explained, USSS doesn't share their actual radios or setup any direct patches with state or local LE, for a variety of understandable reasons. However that decision necessitates being more careful about having necessary people at their command post to quickly relay information to USSS folks about what's going on at an event.
Even though USSS doesn't directly share their radios, they almost certainly have, or are *supposed* to have, people monitoring relevant state and local radios to relay information directly to their people.
At this point it sure looks like that whole process failed miserably.
www.foxnews.com
As others have explained, USSS doesn't share their actual radios or setup any direct patches with state or local LE, for a variety of understandable reasons. However that decision necessitates being more careful about having necessary people at their command post to quickly relay information to USSS folks about what's going on at an event.
Even though USSS doesn't directly share their radios, they almost certainly have, or are *supposed* to have, people monitoring relevant state and local radios to relay information directly to their people.
At this point it sure looks like that whole process failed miserably.
Pennsylvania officers not allowed in Secret Service command center at Trump rally, lawmakers say on site
Pennsylvania officers were apparently not allowed into a Secret Service control room on the day of former President Trump's rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, Rep. Mark Green said.
www.foxnews.com
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