Trunk-Recorder "Freq: 0.000000 MHz Not Recording: no source covering Freq"

[rneals]

I'm stumped on this error message in the Trunk-Recorder screen output...

Anyone have any suggestions? Anyone else see a similar no source covering freq message?
It's worth noting that it's always with this specific talkgroup as well. That seems weird, and suggest a software issue to me.


[2024-03-24 18:33:36.338223] (error) [fleetnet-fenelon] 45C TG: 2OPS05 ( 8288) Freq: 0.000000 MHz Not Recording: no source covering Freq


What I've done this far to try and solve it:
1. Added a second RTL-SDR to my system, expanding it to cover the entire 140 to 144 MHz spectrum
(which is beyond the known frequency range the Ontario Fleetnet systems uses)
2. Extended the Smartnet bandplan high freq to 144000000


BANDPLAN:
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.061764] (info) Smartnet bandplan: 400_custom
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.061770] (info) Smartnet band: 400
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.061776] (info) Smartnet bandplan base freq: 141.015
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.061784] (info) Smartnet bandplan high freq: 144
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.061791] (info) Smartnet bandplan spacing: 0.015
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.061799] (info) Smartnet bandplan offset: 380

RTL-SDR 0:
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.062011] (info) Source Device: rtl=0
gr-osmosdr 0.2.0.0 (0.2.0) gnuradio 3.10.1.1
built-in source types: file fcd rtl rtl_tcp uhd hackrf bladerf rfspace airspy airspyhf soapy redpitaya freesrp
Using device #0 Nooelec NESDR SMArt v5 SN: 00000002
Found Rafael Micro R820T tuner
[R82XX] PLL not locked!
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.708612] (info) SOURCE TYPE OSMOSDR (osmosdr)
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.708678] (info) Setting sample rate to: 2400000
[R82XX] PLL not locked!
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.832725] (info) Actual sample rate: 2400000
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.832830] (info) Tuning to 141.150000 MHz
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.887543] (info) Gain Stage: LNA supported values: 0 0.9 1.4 2.7 3.7 7.7 8.7 12.5 14.4 15.7 16.6 19.7 20.7 22.9 25.4 28 29.7 32.8 33.8 36.4 37.2 38.6 40.2 42.1 43.4 43.9 44.5 48 49.6
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.915443] (info) Gain set to: 14.4
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.915553] (info) Auto gain control is OFF
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.915580] (info) Setting antenna to [RX]
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.915607] (info) Max Frequency: 142.300000 MHz
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.915652] (info) Min Frequency: 140.000000 MHz
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.915680] (info) Digital Recorders: 10
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.915716] (info) SigMF Recorders: 0
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.915745] (info) Analog Recorders: 10

RTL-SDR 1:
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.140711] (info) Source Device: rtl=1
gr-osmosdr 0.2.0.0 (0.2.0) gnuradio 3.10.1.1
built-in source types: file fcd rtl rtl_tcp uhd hackrf bladerf rfspace airspy airspyhf soapy redpitaya freesrp
Using device #1 Nooelec NESDR SMArt v5 SN: 00000001
Found Rafael Micro R820T tuner
[R82XX] PLL not locked!
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.773041] (info) SOURCE TYPE OSMOSDR (osmosdr)
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.773129] (info) Setting sample rate to: 2400000
[R82XX] PLL not locked!
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.895019] (info) Actual sample rate: 2400000
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.895128] (info) Tuning to 143.205000 MHz
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.949744] (info) Gain Stage: LNA supported values: 0 0.9 1.4 2.7 3.7 7.7 8.7 12.5 14.4 15.7 16.6 19.7 20.7 22.9 25.4 28 29.7 32.8 33.8 36.4 37.2 38.6 40.2 42.1 43.4 43.9 44.5 48 49.6
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.976268] (info) Gain set to: 14.4
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.976361] (info) Auto gain control is OFF
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.976393] (info) Setting antenna to [RX]
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.976412] (info) Max Frequency: 144.355000 MHz
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.976445] (info) Min Frequency: 142.055000 MHz
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.976466] (info) Digital Recorders: 10
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.976504] (info) SigMF Recorders: 0
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.976523] (info) Analog Recorders: 10

 

[mikewazowski]

What I've done this far to try and solve it:
1. Added a second RTL-SDR to my system, expanding it to cover the entire 140 to 144 MHz spectrum
(which is beyond the known frequency range the Ontario Fleetnet systems uses)

140-144MHz is only one of 3 frequency ranges in the Fleetnet system. It's possible that the site has a frequency not within the one range you're covering.

 

[rneals]

140-144MHz is only one of 3 frequency ranges in the Fleetnet system. It's possible that the site has a frequency not within the one range you're covering.

Yes, apparently. Any suggestions where I might look?

 

[mikewazowski]

You could program all 3 ranges into a scanner and see what frequencies the scanner lands on or use a program capable of monitoring that type of system such as Trunk88 and see what it shows.

 

[boatbod]

It sounds a lot like it is failing to convert the channel id to a valid frequency. You'll need more detailed debug information to see what OSW was received and how it was interpreted.

Since you already have two rtl dongles, you could try running op25 on this smartnet system and see what it thinks is going on.

 

[webstar22]

I'm stumped on this error message in the Trunk-Recorder screen output...

Anyone have any suggestions? Anyone else see a similar no source covering freq message?
It's worth noting that it's always with this specific talkgroup as well. That seems weird, and suggest a software issue to me.


[2024-03-24 18:33:36.338223] (error) [fleetnet-fenelon] 45C TG: 2OPS05 ( 8288) Freq: 0.000000 MHz Not Recording: no source covering Freq


What I've done this far to try and solve it:
1. Added a second RTL-SDR to my system, expanding it to cover the entire 140 to 144 MHz spectrum
(which is beyond the known frequency range the Ontario Fleetnet systems uses)
2. Extended the Smartnet bandplan high freq to 144000000


BANDPLAN:
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.061764] (info) Smartnet bandplan: 400_custom
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.061770] (info) Smartnet band: 400
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.061776] (info) Smartnet bandplan base freq: 141.015
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.061784] (info) Smartnet bandplan high freq: 144
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.061791] (info) Smartnet bandplan spacing: 0.015
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.061799] (info) Smartnet bandplan offset: 380

RTL-SDR 0:
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.062011] (info) Source Device: rtl=0
gr-osmosdr 0.2.0.0 (0.2.0) gnuradio 3.10.1.1
built-in source types: file fcd rtl rtl_tcp uhd hackrf bladerf rfspace airspy airspyhf soapy redpitaya freesrp
Using device #0 Nooelec NESDR SMArt v5 SN: 00000002
Found Rafael Micro R820T tuner
[R82XX] PLL not locked!
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.708612] (info) SOURCE TYPE OSMOSDR (osmosdr)
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.708678] (info) Setting sample rate to: 2400000
[R82XX] PLL not locked!
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.832725] (info) Actual sample rate: 2400000
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.832830] (info) Tuning to 141.150000 MHz
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.887543] (info) Gain Stage: LNA supported values: 0 0.9 1.4 2.7 3.7 7.7 8.7 12.5 14.4 15.7 16.6 19.7 20.7 22.9 25.4 28 29.7 32.8 33.8 36.4 37.2 38.6 40.2 42.1 43.4 43.9 44.5 48 49.6
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.915443] (info) Gain set to: 14.4
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.915553] (info) Auto gain control is OFF
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.915580] (info) Setting antenna to [RX]
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.915607] (info) Max Frequency: 142.300000 MHz
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.915652] (info) Min Frequency: 140.000000 MHz
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.915680] (info) Digital Recorders: 10
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.915716] (info) SigMF Recorders: 0
[2024-03-24 18:37:39.915745] (info) Analog Recorders: 10

RTL-SDR 1:
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.140711] (info) Source Device: rtl=1
gr-osmosdr 0.2.0.0 (0.2.0) gnuradio 3.10.1.1
built-in source types: file fcd rtl rtl_tcp uhd hackrf bladerf rfspace airspy airspyhf soapy redpitaya freesrp
Using device #1 Nooelec NESDR SMArt v5 SN: 00000001
Found Rafael Micro R820T tuner
[R82XX] PLL not locked!
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.773041] (info) SOURCE TYPE OSMOSDR (osmosdr)
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.773129] (info) Setting sample rate to: 2400000
[R82XX] PLL not locked!
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.895019] (info) Actual sample rate: 2400000
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.895128] (info) Tuning to 143.205000 MHz
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.949744] (info) Gain Stage: LNA supported values: 0 0.9 1.4 2.7 3.7 7.7 8.7 12.5 14.4 15.7 16.6 19.7 20.7 22.9 25.4 28 29.7 32.8 33.8 36.4 37.2 38.6 40.2 42.1 43.4 43.9 44.5 48 49.6
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.976268] (info) Gain set to: 14.4
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.976361] (info) Auto gain control is OFF
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.976393] (info) Setting antenna to [RX]
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.976412] (info) Max Frequency: 144.355000 MHz
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.976445] (info) Min Frequency: 142.055000 MHz
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.976466] (info) Digital Recorders: 10
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.976504] (info) SigMF Recorders: 0
[2024-03-24 18:37:40.976523] (info) Analog Recorders: 10

I've been seeing the 0.0000mhz stuff for years, I honestly think it is something that isn't voice traffic so it never gets a voice freq assigned to it. But could also be one of those annoying Smartnet things that people hate programming for.

 

[rneals]

You could program all 3 ranges into a scanner and see what frequencies the scanner lands on or use a program capable of monitoring that type of system such as Trunk88 and see what it shows.

BTW, I looked at Trunk88, tried to figure how to install it, and gave up after half an hour.
I didn't see any readme or install notes and couldn't figure out what the multiple different applications did.
Any clues would be appreciated.

 

[webstar22]

BTW, I looked at Trunk88, tried to figure how to install it, and gave up after half an hour.
I didn't see any readme or install notes and couldn't figure out what the multiple different applications did.
Any clues would be appreciated.

I figured out the 000.0000 stuff today.
Fleetnet is adding new voice channels to sites, my local site got a new one recently so I was getting a lot of the 000.0000 issues. I had to change
"bandplanHigh": 143970000.0 to the number of the highest freq, and now the issues are gone.

141.435

141.675

142.125

142.380c

142.710c

142.950

Were my freqs before but now they added in 143.9700 and my bandplanhigh didn't take that into account..

 

[rneals]

I figured out the 000.0000 stuff today.
Fleetnet is adding new voice channels to sites, my local site got a new one recently so I was getting a lot of the 000.0000 issues. I had to change
"bandplanHigh": 143970000.0 to the number of the highest freq, and now the issues are gone.

141.435

141.675

142.125

142.380c

142.710c

142.950

Were my freqs before but now they added in 143.9700 and my bandplanhigh didn't take that into account..

Yep, sorry, I should have posted as follow up.
I'm also not seeing those messages any longer and also raised my bandplan high to 144 MHz.

Here's my config, using a single NooElec rtl-sdr v5.
"ver": 2,
"sources": [{
"center": 142352678,
"rate": 2400000,
"error": 0,
"gain": 20,
"digitalRecorders": 15,
"analogRecorders": 15,
"driver": "osmosdr",
"device": "rtl=0"
}],
"systems": [{
}],
"systems": [{
"control_channels": [142605000],
"type": "smartnet",
"squelch": -55,
"digitalLevels": 8,
"analogLevels": 32,
"modulation": "fsk4",
"recordUnknown": true,
"bandplan": "400_custom",
"bandplanBase": 141015000.0,
"bandplanHigh": 144000000.0,
"bandplanSpacing": 15000,
"bandplanOffset": 380,
"talkgroupDisplayFormat": "tag_id",
"maxDev": 3500,
"callLog": true,
"hideEncrypted": true,
"audioArchive": true,
"transmissionArchive": false,
"compressWav": true,
"talkgroupsFile": "trs_tg_2560.csv",
"hideUnknownTalkgroups": false,
"multiSite": true,
"multiSiteSystemName": "FleetNetZone2",
"multiSiteSystemNumber": 822,
"shortName": "fenlon",
"broadcastifyApiKey": "removed",
"broadcastifySystemId": removed,
"audioArchive": false

When Trunk Recorder Starts, this log spits out telling me what frequency range it can monitor.

Using device #0 Nooelec NESDR SMArt v5 SN: 00000002
Found Rafael Micro R820T tuner
[R82XX] PLL not locked!
[2024-04-12 15:11:22.384700] (info) SOURCE TYPE OSMOSDR (osmosdr)
[2024-04-12 15:11:22.384934] (info) Setting sample rate to: 2400000
[R82XX] PLL not locked!
[2024-04-12 15:11:22.513848] (info) Actual sample rate: 2400000
[2024-04-12 15:11:22.514117] (info) Tuning to 142.352678 MHz
[2024-04-12 15:11:22.569638] (info) Gain Stage: LNA supported values: 0 0.9 1.4 2.7 3.7 7.7 8.7 12.5 14.4 15.7 16.6 19.7 20.7 22.9 25.4 28 29.7 32.8 33.8 36.4 37.2 38.6 40.2 42.1 43.4 43.9 44.5 48 49.6
[2024-04-12 15:11:22.598177] (info) Gain set to: 19.7
[2024-04-12 15:11:22.598466] (info) Auto gain control is OFF
[2024-04-12 15:11:22.598615] (info) Setting antenna to [RX]
[2024-04-12 15:11:22.598749] (info) Max Frequency: 143.502678 MHz
[2024-04-12 15:11:22.598912] (info) Min Frequency: 141.202678 MHz
[2024-04-12 15:11:22.599056] (info) Digital Recorders: 15
[2024-04-12 15:11:22.599191] (info) SigMF Recorders: 0
[2024-04-12 15:11:22.599320] (info) Analog Recorders: 15