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I am fortunate to have 2 Diamond X-300 antennas - 1 on house, 1 on pole barn. Took the HT out to the barn tonight just because. Tied into the external and had a wonderful 45 minute QSO on local 2 meter repeater about past employment and work experiences. Ham investment much cheaper than therapist!
 

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I've done the same thing when simply checking a radio after a repair or change then accidently getting into a butt flattener conversation on the same radio. At least its a good test of the repair. And I find many ham radio operators are in dire need of therapy of some kind.

I am fortunate to have 2 Diamond X-300 antennas - 1 on house, 1 on pole barn. Took the HT out to the barn tonight just because. Tied into the external and had a wonderful 45 minute QSO on local 2 meter repeater about past employment and work experiences. Ham investment much cheaper than therapist!
 

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I've done the same thing when simply checking a radio after a repair or change then accidently getting into a butt flattener conversation on the same radio. At least its a good test of the repair. And I find many ham radio operators are in dire need of therapy of some kind.

As a ham radio operator, I resemble that remark ! ;)
 

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The day I got my RT73 immediately put it on 146.520 and had a long chat with somebody who was traveling on the interstate.
 
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Hi Mr. 10 :)

I hope your QSO won't be a rarity- Ham radio is all about talking. Its too bad such a conversations stands out as exceptional.
Personally I have no trouble getting into long 'rag chews' with those I meet on the air. Perhaps its a female thing -to be chatty, - and men like to talk to women on the air- but I try to think of it as more than that.
For instance, I think quite a few hams avoid long conversations on repeaters for various reasons. Like they don't want to 'tie up a machine' or they feel that there are vast, unknown numbers of people all out there listening in. That last excuse is mine, and keeps my repeater QSO's limited when it comes to my personal space info-stuff. I rarely talk on repeaters now-a-days for that very reason. However, I have no issues, real or imagined, when talking about all sorts of things in simplex- 2 metre's, HF-- whatever.

First off-- In order to have an interesting chat you have to be an interesting chat-ee. I hate to say it guys, but talking about the equipment in your 'shack' is, how do I say this kindly ?- as boring (to me) as watching paint dry. I seldom say much more about my radios other than they have pretty dials and knobs- an exaggeration of course- but not much. If I talk about radios it has to be in context with something else, not just some dry equipment models, numbers or antennas. For instance; --- lately I can tell you the tale of the fate of a hand-held, when I dropped it (accidentally !)- from the top of a 600 foot naval radio tower- and it survived unscathed !.... (there !-caught your interest, didn't I--- see how it works ?)

A chat about equipment but not about equipment. :sneaky:

My ham philosophy is that everyone has a story- and its becomes my role to get them to tell it to me. Nothing does that better than asking questions,--- and, of course, being genuinely interested in the answers. People love to talk about where they live, for instance--- and well, you get the idea- take it from there. Before long you will have made a friend and the scope of your conversation will know few bounds.
Where do you find such places to meet such people ? Easy-- any hunter knows you go hunting where there is something to hunt. I suggest looking into a local 10-10 net. I have yet to be disappointed. These nets tend to be local (right off you have something in common) and people are there to chat. That's my suggestion for a jumping off point-- plus they are generally in the part of 10 metre's open to Tech's.
Please bear in mind that these are my suggestions-- emptor caveat---- However, I have been a ham for many years and in many far flung corner of the world where amateur radio was my 'social media' outlet. These techniques work for me--- maybe you too ?

Cheers---!

Lauri :sneaky:



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I've had more interesting QSO's when I'm in remote areas than when I'm in town. The best ones were when I've called CQ on HF from the ghost town I frequently visit. This is a lot more fun than the pro forma banter of "my equipment is...., the temperature here is...your signal is 5-9...etc." It's particularly fun to chat with new hams and help them overcome their mic shyness.
 

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Hi Mr. 10 :)

I hope your QSO won't be a rarity- Ham radio is all about talking. Its too bad such a conversations stands out as exceptional.
Personally I have no trouble getting into long 'rag chews' with those I meet on the air. Perhaps its a female thing -to be chatty, - and men like to talk to women on the air- but I try to think of it as more than that.
For instance, I think quite a few hams avoid long conversations on repeaters for various reasons. Like they don't want to 'tie up a machine' or they feel that there are vast, unknown numbers of people all out there listening in. That last excuse is mine, and keeps my repeater QSO's limited when it comes to my personal space info-stuff. I rarely talk on repeaters now-a-days for that very reason. However, I have no issues, real or imagined, when talking about all sorts of things in simplex- 2 metre's, HF-- whatever.

First off-- In order to have an interesting chat you have to be an interesting chat-ee. I hate to say it guys, but talking about the equipment in your 'shack' is, how do I say this kindly ?- as boring (to me) as watching paint dry. I seldom say much more about my radios other than they have pretty dials and knobs- an exaggeration of course- but not much. If I talk about radios it has to be in context with something else, not just some dry equipment models, numbers or antennas. For instance; --- lately I can tell you the tale of the fate of a hand-held, when I dropped it (accidentally !)- from the top of a 600 foot naval radio tower- and it survived unscathed !.... (there !-caught your interest, didn't I--- see how it works ?)

A chat about equipment but not about equipment. :sneaky:

My ham philosophy is that everyone has a story- and its becomes my role to get them to tell it to me. Nothing does that better than asking questions,--- and, of course, being genuinely interested in the answers. People love to talk about where they live, for instance--- and well, you get the idea- take it from there. Before long you will have made a friend and the scope of your conversation will know few bounds.
Where do you find such places to meet such people ? Easy-- any hunter knows you go hunting where there is something to hunt. I suggest looking into a local 10-10 net. I have yet to be disappointed. These nets tend to be local (right off you have something in common) and people are there to chat. That's my suggestion for a jumping off point-- plus they are generally in the part of 10 metre's open to Tech's.
Please bear in mind that these are my suggestions-- emptor caveat---- However, I have been a ham for many years and in many far flung corner of the world where amateur radio was my 'social media' outlet. These techniques work for me--- maybe you too ?

Cheers---!

Lauri :sneaky:



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Thanks Lauri for the reply and explanation stating your perspective, much appreciated. Don't have a problem carrying on long conversations. Stuck in "Tech" land for a very short while longer. Until then I have Wires X. Should be testing within 1-2 weeks. I do belong to a local club with a good percentage of female members. The problem is "they", or anyone doesn't talk on the club owned repeaters! Therefore I've found another open, local group. Good mix of people there. Slightly off topic, if I hunted where I knew the hunting was good, everyone else would be there too. Anyway, was great to hear the opinion from a female member and I will explore the bands when the time comes. PS, please excuse the reference to the X300 antenna. It's mainly a guy thing like "horsepower". As you've stated - I don't care about your dishwasher or any other household appliances so I understand where you're coming from. This is/was not to be construed as "negative". 73's, 10pt clear!
 

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It's particularly fun to chat with new hams and help them overcome their mic shyness.

I need to meet more hams like you. I'm probably the worse "mic shy" ham known to hams. I've been licensed since 2015 and can shamelessly say I've only had 2 or 3 really short QSO's. I don't know if it's mic shyness or just the fact I'm a quiet person. I've always been interested in radio but mostly enjoyed being on the receiving side. Guess that's the scanner enthusiast in me. The ham in me is from growing up watching my dad build heathkit and antennas.
 

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I got out of HF because I just don't have that much in common with those on the other end. I like to talk while on the road, but once at home, I'd rather be on my bicycle.
 

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I'm probably the worse "mic shy" ham known to hams. I've been licensed since 2015 and can shamelessly say I've only had 2 or 3 really short QSO's.
Overcoming mic shyness is a learned response. Sort of like diving into the water all at once rather than one tootsie at a time.
One way to break out of your shell is to participate in nets--either through the local repeater / club or via HF. Nets aren't the most interesting conversations, but it does give participants practice and confidence and may open up apre net QSO's on interesting subjects. One EMCOM group I belong to has a formal net every Monday evening over the repeater, followed by an informal net that's wide open for subject material.

I use VHF simplex a lot when I'm 4-wheeling in the backcountry with friends. Our conversations are extremely informal, but a lot of fun and add to the enjoyment an safety of our backcountry experiences. I'm proud to say I've brought a number of friends into the hobby this way.

Finding a bridge between amateur radio and your hobbies may make conversation easier.

73!
 

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Thanks for the reply ladn. I think a lot of my reluctance also comes from not knowing anyone else who is a ham. My dad passed shortly after I got my license and no one else in the family is even remotely interested in radio. In fact, my wife and kids call me a geek and don't have any interest in technology as a whole.

I keep telling myself to join the local club. I just need to do it. I think I might be more open to pressing the mic if I knew someone out there. Thanks again for the inspiration.
 

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lviper, just remember that anyone on the 'other end' when you press a PTT button is a ham. And anyone that comes back probably wants to talk, at least a little bit.
So many people forget about VHF/UHF Simplex; if you find someone who appears to be an interesting QSO partner on a local repeater, perhaps try simplex - that may avoid the chance someone with excessive self-importance will tell you to stop gabbing on the repeater to keep it open for 'emergencies'. Maybe you are close enough that simplex would work... and if so, maybe you could have an 'eyeball' meet too.

I think HF QSOs are a little different, and I approach them by letting the person at the other end decide whether the QSO will be a 'ragchew' or a 'hi/goodbye' type. I'll usually ask a question like, "How do you like the way your antenna works for you?" or somesuch. I do this on either voice or CW. Sometimes the other person says, "Fine, thanks for the chat, see ya." but sometimes not. I've had 2-hour CW conversations...
 

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Thanks for the words k7ng. I've been meaning to start monitoring Simplex to see if there is any traffic.
 

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I understand about local repeaters, no one answers…or they are cliquish, and only answer back to their buddies. That’s why I moved to DMR and then the rest of the digital modes, NXDN, Fusion, etc. Lots of people from around the World to talk to! Get an Anytone or FT-70 and a hotspot. Or use the Peanut or DroidStar.
A great group I found is on TGIF 2021 (DMR Network). Talk as long as you want, just leave a pause in between stations to allow others to join. Check them out at: www.freespeechradio.us
 

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Thanks for the words k7ng. I've been meaning to start monitoring Simplex to see if there is any traffic.
There's a wonderful VHF/UHF network in southern IN. A series of linked repeaters which I communicate with on occasion via Wires X. If interested look up KC9ZAR. When I visit my daughter in Evansville, this is my network of choice. It extends from Terre Haute to KY
 

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There's a wonderful VHF/UHF network in southern IN. A series of linked repeaters which I communicate with on occasion via Wires X. If interested look up KC9ZAR. When I visit my daughter in Evansville, this is my network of choice. It extends from Terre Haute to KY

I'll look in to it, thanks. I've been thinking of getting a Yaesu FT-70D to try our wires-x. There are more c4fm repeaters than dmr which makes me think most hams in the area are there. I already have 2 hotspots I built so I might configure the dmr2ysf and check it out before I buy the new radio.

EDIT - Just looked and I see they are on TGIF tg 31188. Will have to check it out. Thanks again.
 
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